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Old 03-18-2019, 04:18 PM   #1
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Default Square D Handle Tie from 2-pole breaker

When changing out a panel I like using handle ties for MWBC's because I can use 2 single pole breakers instead of having to stock lots of 2-pole breakers on the truck. The last panel change has 7 MWBC, but that's fine because I have at least 10 Siemens handle ties and lots of Siemens single pole breakers.

But now I would like to start using Square D Homeline in some situations because their panels are pretty nice and small and come in good configurations that will fit into the tight places that I often have to put them.

The problem is that their hand ties are garbage:

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I know you may be thinking that is the handle tie for QO breakers, but it's not. That is the proper handle tie for Homeline breakers.

In the past I have taken the handle off of 2-pole breakers, and they work perfectly on single pole breakers. But then you are left with a 2-pole breaker without a handle tie. So that is what I am looking for, this type of handle tie. Is it possible to buy it separately?

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You posted a QO1HT handle tie and the other one is a QO2HT I believe?


Edit: After looking on their site it looks like all they have in homeline is the HOM1HT that you have.
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You mean a piece of copper wire or a finish nail isn't good enough?
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You posted a QO1HT handle tie and the other one is a QO2HT I believe?


Edit: After looking on their site it looks like all they have in homeline is the HOM1HT that you have.
All they have available that I can find is the one I posted in the first picture.

I was wondering if someone had a way to find the one that comes on 2-pole breakers.
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All they have available that I can find is the one I posted in the first picture.

I was wondering if someone had a way to find the one that comes on 2-pole breakers.
I'm with you bro, I think that spindle thing looks half-assed!

They don't seem available anymore.
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I'm with you bro, I think that spindle thing looks half-assed!

They don't seem available anymore.
I don't think they were ever available.

They actually say "Common Trip" on the front of the handle tie which means they shouldn't be used for this purpose.

I figured I would take a shot to see if anyone knew a way to get them.
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Will the generic Electricenter handle ties not work?
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I don't think they were ever available.

They actually say "Common Trip" on the front of the handle tie which means they shouldn't be used for this purpose.

I figured I would take a shot to see if anyone knew a way to get them.
They still have the QO3HT pin and plastic handle for three breakers.
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Will the generic Electricenter handle ties not work?
Electricenter is Siemens and only listed for Siemens and Murray panels. Those are the ones that I stock on my truck now.

I never tried them on Homeline. I guess I could, most inspectors probably wouldn't know the difference. I will try it out tomorrow.
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Electricenter is Siemens and only listed for Siemens and Murray panels. Those are the ones that I stock on my truck now.

I never tried them on Homeline. I guess I could, most inspectors probably wouldn't know the difference. I will try it out tomorrow.
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You could try the Eaton BRHT. They look identical to the HOM from what I can see on this end of the interweb.
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What's with those AFCI and DF breakers?
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On a panel/service replacement, I do not concern myself with adding handle ties to MWBCs.
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On a panel/service replacement, I do not concern myself with adding handle ties to MWBCs.
Inspectors check for that, at least here they do. It's not worth having to go back to fix it, then schedule the new inspection. It is an inconvenience for the customer and looks bad.
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