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Old 05-29-2018, 07:39 AM   #21
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I prefer solid wire (#12-14) to pull by myself off the reel. Stranded is great if you have someone feeding the wire otherwise it coils up on itself and costs more for your effort!


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I pull from under and slip every other spool as over to keep them from doing that. But I donít pull stranded very often, only when I need to.
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:01 AM   #22
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Im not sure about Turkish conductors but, here in the States, you can fold a piece of solid wire in half, beat it flat with a hammer and it won't just crack.
Aluminum on the other hand...

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I like to run a solid ground wire with all other conductors stranded for raceway work since it makes for easier termination to box and device grounding means. I also use backwired (not to be confused with backstab) wiring devices which makes work with stranded much easier. It also makes pushing the wire through the raceway a bit easier with one solid conductor. This highly perfected and excellent system has been trademarked by me and I have exclusive use of it.
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Stranded is less susceptible to metal fatigue.

Stranded is used where repetitive bending is anticipated. An extension cord is the easiest example.

An umbilical cord is another example (cable assembly between control and something that moves).

Stranded will carry more current but the NEC is not going to tell you that.
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Im not sure about Turkish conductors but, here in the States, you can fold a piece of solid wire in half, beat it flat with a hammer and it won't just crack.
That might be a high-quality one and soft drawn with a lower diameter.
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Where do you run wire that corrosion is a problem?
i didn't mean if corrosion was a problem, if it was i would use tinned. what i meant was like for exterior grounding, a lot of old installations i have ran across i have seen stranded wire corrode away in spots, it corrodes the same way its just stranded has more surface area exposed to the environment so it takes less time to cut through or thin it
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Nobody said they like solid better for wire nut splices and screw terminals?

The thing I hate about stranded is getting a stray strand and getting a short, but that's more for green terminal blocks.
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Nobody said they like solid better for wire nut splices and screw terminals?

The thing I hate about stranded is getting a stray strand and getting a short, but that's more for green terminal blocks.
I like forks crimped on stranded over solid hooks. I hate untwisting energized solid splices.

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I have heard that many times and always wonder why solid and stranded same amps per NEC

Or am I missing something?
the way i understand it is eddy currents have less effect, same principle as laminated transformer cores

in terms of ampacity, i think it is what tggt might be thinking of, i think you can run bare solid hotter (or high temp insulation) because the small strands will brake down quicker at the same temperature, but at the same alternating current i've never checked it but have been told and think it makes sense stranded runs cooler; 1 less eddy current loss, 2 more surface area for heat dissipation



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Last time I checked solid had a higher amp rating. I'm in a food coma a few yards from my code book so I don't plan on looking it up.

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Stranded wire is more flexible in terms of usage. Internal wiring of equipment is done using stranded wires, transmission lines, automotive and robotics use stranded wires since it can easily bend around.

In terms of durability, solid wire is useful in places where bends and vibrations don't take place.

As TGGT said:

I heard many times solid wire had high amps ratings than stranded as this solid vs stranded article also mentions.

In terms of pulling stranded are easy, however terminating such wires can be a headache is few cases.


that article says same diameter. stranded is slightly larger because of voids
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I like forks crimped on stranded over solid hooks. I hate untwisting energized solid splices.
I will only wrap a stranded wire around a screw terminal in a real pinch, I just hate it. Forks or hooks for me with stranded wire on screw terminals but backwire is really the first choice.

Anyone know of an uninsulated hook terminal that's listed / kosher?
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Stranded is less susceptible to metal fatigue.

Stranded is used where repetitive bending is anticipated. An extension cord is the easiest example.

An umbilical cord is another example (cable assembly between control and something that moves).

Stranded will carry more current but the NEC is not going to tell you that.
Also , machinery or equipment that vibrates when running...that is
if it is shaking the terminations / points of connection...solid is known
to eventually break in half as opposed to stranded can handle it
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What happened to the OP?

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I heard many times solid wire had high amps ratings than stranded as this solid vs stranded article also mentions.
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Stranded will carry more current but the NEC is not going to tell you that.
So solid will carry more amps, but stranded will carry more current?
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Thanx Dave...I did not know this
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