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Old 08-18-2012, 02:04 PM   #61
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Thank you for all the knowledge! I'm going to be graduating next friday and I'm realizing that I have so much more to learn! I have an apprentice (1st year ) working with me and was able to share with him the stuff you have all let me know. As well as some other things I've picked up over the years.

We installed a run of 2 inch today and we both did well. We took careful measurements and it turned out great. Made the foreman happy and only had to use 1 union.
Why is an apprentice training a 1st year?
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Old 08-18-2012, 02:49 PM   #62
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Happens all the time. I was a third year in charge of a first year and a helper. We were pulling branch circuitry. I always had a major beef with the blind leading the blind. I complained because I was always working by myself roughing in walls then down the hall a crew of three journeyman were working together. No matter how much I bitched nothing seemed to change.
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Why is an apprentice training a 1st year?
He's graduating next Friday, as stated in his post.

Pretty sure he can teach a first year a few things
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Thank you for all the knowledge! I'm going to be graduating next friday and I'm realizing that I have so much more to learn! I have an apprentice (1st year ) working with me and was able to share with him the stuff you have all let me know. As well as some other things I've picked up over the years.

We installed a run of 2 inch today and we both did well. We took careful measurements and it turned out great. Made the foreman happy and only had to use 1 union.
Good for you. Keep learning and keep spreading the knowledge. I have been doing this schtuff for nearly 30 years and I learn something new all the time.

I had an apprentice who I was teaching how to bend recently who showed me an app for his phone - ibend I think it was called. He used the phone as a protactor and it beeped when the desired bend was hit.

At least he didn't call me gramps when I called that neato.
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Some jobs do not care what app you have,If they see a cell phone in your hand during working hours you are gone.Its like a no tolerance thing.
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Happens all the time. I was a third year in charge of a first year and a helper. We were pulling branch circuitry. I always had a major beef with the blind leading the blind. I complained because I was always working by myself roughing in walls then down the hall a crew of three journeyman were working together. No matter how much I bitched nothing seemed to change.
Gotta love it...I was a third year apprentice and had been with a shop for 9 mos...I had been with them as a first year for a full year as well. Me and the foreman worked together wellk. It was always me, him and maybe 2 or 3 other guys at the beginning of a job.

When things got rocking and rolling they would man the job up out of the hall, this is where union guys can get a bad rap. All of the sudden I can't look at the prints, guys b*tch if I'm working by myself or with another apprentice or god forbid I am doing something they would rather be doing.

Just do your f"in job and stop worrying about what everyone else is doing.
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Some jobs do not care what app you have,If they see a cell phone in your hand during working hours you are gone.Its like a no tolerance thing.
It's understandable. Often privilege gets abused and then everyone loses out.
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pipe fitting is fun
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pipe fitting is the fitters job, we run conduit.
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as far as using a hogs head far threading larger pipe w porta pony, grind down a 1" pipe rgc btw to fit in. if it is a newer head it will allow you to do this with a set screw on one side of it. this allows you to mount the head in a vise instead of lifting it to larger pipe every time. next take a rope and put a clove hitch to a piece of i think 1".maybe 3/4. whatever fits into the end of the porta pony handle, and tape it up so will not slide off the 2' long piece. tie other end of rope to bottom of tri stand leg on right side. this allows you to pull out of handle of porta pony when not using it to set down. have fun with this. follow the experienced. they will show u alot of tricks. spinning 90's with ropes... rigging .spinning together pipe with rope. find the laziest smart guy around. they think up these things in their sleep, and ask for advice. i bulled a lot when i was an apprentice. regret none of it.
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Good for you. Keep learning and keep spreading the knowledge. I have been doing this schtuff for nearly 30 years and I learn something new all the time.

I had an apprentice who I was teaching how to bend recently who showed me an app for his phone - ibend I think it was called. He used the phone as a protactor and it beeped when the desired bend was hit.

At least he didn't call me gramps when I called that neato.
LOL I was called an "old timer" the other day by a 1st Yr. Apprentice...I was like...WHAT???? When did I become my old man?? LOL
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