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Old 04-20-2012, 10:51 AM   #21
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Was his name Ken and he lived in Iowa..
What?!?!? When did he die?
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:13 AM   #22
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I lost my right thumb recently in an accident, so I find wire nuts hard to use lately. I have used the Wago type with the levers, and I really like them. Doesn't rely on the traditional spring connection like regular Wago's.

Sorry to hear that. A person doesn't realise, how much that thumb is used. The big problem is that I'm "too" right handed.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:57 PM   #23
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I bought a bag of 500 Wagos to see what all the hype was about. Well, they BLOW! The connection feels weak and it's hit or miss putting stranded wire in. Sometimes it will go, sometimes it just wrinkles up. AND they are made in China. Ideal still makes wirenuts in America.

So.... I have a ~400 bag of Wagos collecting dust.
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Old 04-20-2012, 05:56 PM   #24
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Any one who uses push in connectors ever check the voltage drop on the last outlet of the circuit? I have run into jobs where receps were back stabbed and I had a voltage drop of 9 volts on one circuit. A computer was plugged into the outlet and was running poorly due to the voltage drop from back stabbing. Spliced everything through and it fixed the problem. To me using a wago is no different than back stabbing. I've only seen them in halo cans.
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:03 PM   #25
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I've used them before. I absolutely love to use them with the Halo recessed lights. Makes my day a whole lot easier.
Me too. I use the little bastards everywhere I can. They are really nice to use in places that are tight and are the best for recessed lights due to the fact that someone cannot really screw up and not catch a wire in a wire nut.
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:17 PM   #26
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To me using a wago is no different than back stabbing. I've only seen them in halo cans.
No, it's completely different. While many guys find problems with back stabbed outlets, one thing needs to be remembered, outlets are inherently designed to fail. So, did back stabs fail because of a design issue? Was it installer error? Maybe it is because the manufactures are only gonna design a 50 cent item to last 10 years.

I do not think any manufacture of can lights use Wagos or In-Sures. They most likely use cheap Chinese crap. Completely different.

Not one person, I repeat, not one person, on this forum has provided proof that a properly installed Wago or Ideal push on connector has ever failed.
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How it happened:

I saw a spider crawling up the wall. A big ass wolf spider with a fat butt. I instantly went into kill mode. See when I see spiders I go into fight for flight and I always chose fight. I hope this is not the same when I see a bear or something in the wild otherwise I would not survive too long. But I went straight kill mode on this thing and picked up the nearest object (happened to be a pencil). This bad boy was at about eye level on the wall and a pretty big target if you've ever seen a wolf spider. Still my hand eye coordination was dead on and in one swift motion I stabbed that spider right in the ass.
It's ass promptly exploded, launching its spider-entrails at staggering speed - right onto my ****in' lip. In my amped up adrenaline fueled rage kill state I thought the spider had lept on my lip. I immediately close fist punched myself square in the lip, barely missing losing an eye to the pencil I still had a death grip on. Staggered by this mighty blow, lip now lacerated by teeth. I realized it was the spiders entrails not the actual bitey part of the spider that had landed on me. Disgusted and still in a primal state I preceded to let out all of my air making a sound I've never heard a human being make before or since. It was absolute revulsion.
I gagged once, licked my mangled lip, tasted the blood. Inadvertently licked some of the spider gut and proceeded to projectile vomit Velveeta shells and cheese/mountain dew all over my wall. Mixed with the blood it created some sort of mural I can only describe as looking somewhat like the flag of Columbia. I staggered out into the living room, stifling the vomiting and blood through my hands clenched tightly over my mouth I ran to the sink and began vomiting and choking into it, mostly dry heaving by now. My dad stood in shock speechless. Finally he asked, while I was rinsing out my mouth and gargling, near tears from the pieces of Velveeta shells and cheese lodged in my nasal passage - he asked "What the **** happened?". I managed to gasp "Spider". It came out almost in sob. He then said "ok." and went back to sitting on the couch watching his TV.
Spiders are the devil.




And the next day, I lost my thumb in an accident
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:28 PM   #28
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I hate spiders....that is the greatest kill a spider story ever....period.
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I hate wolf spiders.

About 10 years ago they were doing tons of earthwork for nearby track homes. A lot of houses in my neighborhood were getting little field mice living in their homes. I think I must of killed at least 2 dozen. At the same time, the exterminators were seizing an opportunity and going door to door trying to drum up business. I had a pretty good handle on mice eradication, so I declined. Both my neighbors though, signed up. Knowing that they were most likely going to also spray for bugs, I planned on spraying the exterior of the house that weekend hoping to stop the critters coming to my house avoiding the poison from my neighbors. Well, lets just say, I wasn't fast enough.

The next day, after I declined exterminator service, I was laying on my couch watching Jeopardy when all of a sudden I hear my ole lady mumble "what the f is that" with a little bit of terror in her voice. I look and something big is crawling across the carpet in front of the entertainment center. Being like most electricians, I have inadequate lighting throughout my house, so I summon my son to grab me my Streamlight hanging by the garage door and to grab a paper towel on his way back. He comes back and as soon as I shine my light on this guy, I soon realize a paper towel is not gonna be sufficient. I then ask him to retrieve on of my flip flops. Seeing the size of this guy and knowing the amount of bodily fluids contained inside of him, my plan was to smack him hard enough to stun him, but not so hard to cause an explosion. While I was debating the proper force needed to not cause carpet juice, I was fascinated at how ugly this guy was. He had all kinds of warts on his back. Really strange. And big, too. A leg span of nearly 2 inches.

I finally determined the proper force needed and did a little countdown. With my girl on my left and my son on my right, I went in. I lightly slapped this spider and all hell broke loose. This mother f'er somehow turned itself into one of those scarabs from the Mummy movie and scattered in every direction possible. Somehow my ole lady got super human jumping abilities and cleared the coffee table with one single bound and I still don't know were my son bailed to. I rushed for the vacuum and must have vacuumed the living room for at least a half hour until everyone was satisfied.

I went to put the vacuum cleaner back in the hall closet and my ole lady turned into one of those 300 pound black gals on Jerry Springer. She gave me those dead eyes, did the head roll, and gave me a "hell no, that vacuum is going to the trash".

Because of a damn spider I had to buy a new vacuum cleaner and pay for a damn exterminator.

Doing some research, I determined it was a female wolf spider with it's young on its back. When I tapped the spider, it was the babies that scattered everywhere. It looked like this:


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I agree! I had tears on that one thank you needed that tonight.
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No, it's completely different. While many guys find problems with back stabbed outlets, one thing needs to be remembered, outlets are inherently designed to fail. So, did back stabs fail because of a design issue? Was it installer error? Maybe it is because the manufactures are only gonna design a 50 cent item to last 10 years.

I do not think any manufacture of can lights use Wagos or In-Sures. They most likely use cheap Chinese crap. Completely different.

Not one person, I repeat, not one person, on this forum has provided proof that a properly installed Wago or Ideal push on connector has ever failed.
The Halo cans come with wago brand connectors. The 773-164.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:25 PM   #32
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My last boss told me if he ever saw wagos on one of his jobs we'd get fired. I just haven't used them other than the fixtures I installed where they were part of the fixture -- I gotta say they were nice to use !!
I recommended them to a couple union boys buying a 500 bag of oranges for lighting retrofitting this morning. Got some pretty funny looks.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:36 PM   #33
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Knowshorts, that was f-ing hilarious. The fact that she made you throw away the vacuum was the icing on the cake.

Holy crap. I just read the other one above it. This whole thread is hilarious.

I don't have any good spider stories. We've gotta start a new one about mice.

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