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Old 06-30-2014, 12:59 AM   #1
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What does it mean to be a certified electrician. The certificate is given via trade school. Does this mean you can act as a sub-contractor because you have the basic knowledge but not the 8000 hrs under your belt? Elaborate. Thanks.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:00 AM   #2
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Means you have papers that claim you passed required testing and work experience for your state/province.
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What does it mean to be a certified electrician. The certificate is given via trade school. Does this mean you can act as a sub-contractor because you have the basic knowledge but not the 8000 hrs under your belt? Elaborate. Thanks.
You need a C-10 License to do that in your state.
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I understand that but what about regards to work? Does this increase my chances at getting hired by a company/contractor?
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It may mean something in your state here it means you paid $20,000.00 for a piece of paper that means nothing and you could have gotten the training for free, while being paid.
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It was my understanding that you needed the 8000 hrs and a test to be a certified general electrician. That's what I needed to get it anyway.
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what do "What do is mean" mean ?

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it cuts your apprenticeship hours in half maybe?.. but hours arent a problem nowadays. but anyone who pays 20k for it is silly. of course i was working and going at night. that was 12 yrs ago tho.
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It doesn't necessarily mean anything. A lot jurisdictions will count a year of school as 2000 hours towards your journeyman card
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Big Education the same ones driving college students into debt are trying to figure out how to place those not attending college into student debt.

No union BS, no ABC BS, just education that cost a whole hell of a lot less than a trade school, that IMO teaches baloney on a stick FOR THE MOST PART.

Nothing beats OJT and education at the same time.
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Based on your location California, electrician certification

https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/ECU/ElectricalTrade.html

Is a certificate you need to work as an employee under a C-10 electrical contractor. I would call it your Journeyman card, I'm not sure if Union journeymen have to take this same test? possibly?

However it does not make you an electrical contractor, so you would not be able to sub-contract or do any legal/permitted work with it. For that you would need a state electrical contractors license called the C-10. If you have the C-10 you are a contractor and can pull permits and do electrical work, but your employees would need their own Electrical Certification.

It's weird as I am both a C-10 and have my state electrical certification. So if I wanted to I could work for myself or as a sub, or work for another c-10 as i currently am.

Btw, they seem to be getting tougher with the certification exam, and also having the paperwork to prove your hours.
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It was my understanding that you needed the 8000 hrs and a test to be a certified general electrician. That's what I needed to get it anyway.
In Ontario, Canada, you need your 8000 hours + 3 years of trade school + you need to pass the Certificate of Qualification. However, if you have 8000 hours already, you are eligible to challenge the exam -- I highly recommend trade school for basic knowledge in all sub-fields though.
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Based on your location California, electrician certification

https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/ECU/ElectricalTrade.html

Is a certificate you need to work as an employee under a C-10 electrical contractor. I would call it your Journeyman card, I'm not sure if Union journeymen have to take this same test? possibly?

However it does not make you an electrical contractor, so you would not be able to sub-contract or do any legal/permitted work with it. For that you would need a state electrical contractors license called the C-10. If you have the C-10 you are a contractor and can pull permits and do electrical work, but your employees would need their own Electrical Certification.

It's weird as I am both a C-10 and have my state electrical certification. So if I wanted to I could work for myself or as a sub, or work for another c-10 as i currently am.

Btw, they seem to be getting tougher with the certification exam, and also having the paperwork to prove your hours.
The paper work was a pain in the balls, but the general electrician test was easy. Straight code questions, no math or calcs at all. I tested November of 2012.
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how well does the state of California enforce the certification law? who enforces that law,
I don't think it's your local building inspector.
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how well does the state of California enforce the certification law? who enforces that law,
I don't think it's your local building inspector.
Yea it's a joke. No one enforces the certificate requirement.
We have only had customers ask, and some even check on the DiR website.
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