What are the indicators that fire was started by electrical short? - Page 2 - Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum
CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY, IT'S FREE!
Go Back   Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum > Electrical Forum > General Electrical Discussion


Like Tree31Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-20-2019, 06:22 PM   #21
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 57
Default

Fire investigation is as much an art as it is a science. Without knowing what the investigators know, and seeing what they saw, it would be pure speculation at this point to say what caused it. As for determining a cause/origin, investigators use a process of elimination. Looking to rule out electrical, mechanical, chemical, and then, and only then, can say it is either unknown or incendiary in nature.
Wiredmikey is offline   Reply With Quote
Join Contractor Talk

Join the #1 Electrician Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

ElectricianTalk.com - Are you a Professional Electrical Contractor? If so we invite you to join our community and see what it has to offer. Our site is specifically designed for you and it's the leading place for electricians to meet online. No homeowners asking DIY questions. Just fellow tradesmen who enjoy talking about their business, their trade, and anything else that comes up. No matter what your specialty is you'll find that ElectricianTalk.com is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally free!

Join ElectricianTalk.com - Click Here JOIN FOR FREE


Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ElectricianTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-20-2019, 06:29 PM   #22
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 57
Default

Unfortunately, most of the indicators that investigators use to rely on to show
that a fire was electrical in nature have been disproven. There are books online that the national fire academy puts out that go into some details on this topic.
Wiredmikey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2019, 06:36 PM   #23
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 57
Default

http://nyfireinvestigators.org/links/
Wiredmikey is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-22-2019, 06:45 PM   #24
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: So.Cal.
Posts: 3,228
Rewards Points: 6,405
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeFL View Post
I used to get all the FFIR's (Florida Fire Incident Report) in my fax machine for anything in our city. I rode out to a single family and there's some beefy dude sitting in a lawn chair in the front yard. My only purpose was to determine if the building was still habitable, was a total loss and/ or if any permits would be required to make it habitable again. Without saying one word, that man quickly said "I didn't do anything to that receptacle. I didn't. I swear I didn't do anything to that receptacle. I swear to God." He wouldn't shut up about him "not doing" something.

Gee, I wonder how that fire started?

I don't know if he replaced a receptacle and screwed something up or if he intentionally did something nefarious, but either way, that was not my concern at the time.
Strange he would refer to it as a "receptacle", as opposed to the typical layman term, "outlet", or "plug". You should have had him show you what he didn't do, might have been amusing. I think he did it.
__________________
-------------------------------
~ She thinks I'm crazy, but I'm just growing old~
joebanana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2019, 12:05 PM   #25
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 1,362
Rewards Points: 1,478
Default

You also have to remember that those wires were just sitting around for hundreds of years before they invented electricity. They could have been damaged at any time. There wasn't even a code back then.












































Sorry.
ralpha494 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Connecting Grid-tied, PV system to the electrical system katwalatapan Alternative Energy Forum 13 06-15-2016 07:57 PM
Applied Minds: Electrical Engineering Technician opportunity tlindsey Looking To Hire 0 01-21-2016 04:56 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:07 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Our Pro Sites Network
ContractorTalk.com | DrywallTalk.com | HVACSite.com | PaintTalk.com | PlumbingZone.com | RoofingTalk.com