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Old 02-22-2015, 09:42 PM   #41
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Who are you fooling? The unions are in bed with the political class that rules this nation.
Haha. Ok. Sure.
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Old 02-22-2015, 09:43 PM   #42
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Haha. Ok. Sure.
You're not that blind, are you?
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You're not that blind, are you?
No.. I'm not saying that labor unions have not made contributions in the political arena. But, if you think they have a bigger financial influence on politics than corporate America, you have been drinking the cool aide for way too long. It is not even possible speaking from a financial standpoint. They are out-funded by at least 10,000,000 to 1. It's not even close.
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Who are you fooling? The unions are in bed with the political class that rules this nation.
Very few democrats truly care about unions or the working class. Just like anything in politics it comes down to supporting the lesser of two evils.
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You're a signatory contractor? As far as I know, most locals require contractors to carry insurance for the men's tools. Usually it's only for what's on the tool list. I don't know if many nonunion contractors buy that extra insurance.
Yes...signatory. Our local doesn't require the insurance but does require the contractor to replace the hand tools if they are stolen. I could take the chance and hope that nothing ever happens and IF the tools ever get stolen then I would have to pay out pocket for it.

I prefer to let insurance company take the risk
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Who do you work for that provides a vehicle to drive to and from work, pays you lunch money, and gives you all your clothing (underwear included)?
Off-shore oil rig.

Includes travel allowance to heli-port, all meals and accomodations provided at work, and flame ******ant clothing.

They haven't issued us underwear though, can't have everything I guess.
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Please show me an example of where employees have any real market power?

Tech companies in silicon valley agreed to settle a case on wage fixing, but do your really believe those tech companies are the only ones that are wage fixing? No, but it is fairly hard to prove and what joe electrician has the resources to go after their employer or who even dares.
I see your point.
Some people work in factory jobs and depend on the success of that factory to continue with employment.
Factory shuts down, production worker has no job or maybe does not have the skills to work in another factory. So he is fully dependent on the factory for employment.
Now of course he could learn new skills and must to continue with employment. But he is under the thumb of that factory until he does.

I have heard it said that some people have careers and some people have jobs. Those that have jobs depend on the company to keep them employed. Those that have careers can easily move between jobs and are not as directly dependent on any particular company for employment.

I guess the point is not everyone is an electrician and not everyone can go out and get a new job tomorrow.
Some folks depend on the company to keep them working.
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