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Old 08-06-2013, 09:51 AM   #21
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The was a time a while ago where I had a small fender bender with the work truck. The boss made me pay for all the damage to the truck out of my pocket. He just took it out of my pay, this wasn't right. I didn't know any better at the time.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:01 AM   #22
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Part of being in business is assuming liability for employees. Making his guys pay is probably illegal, unless they are 1099 subs.
Your heart was in the right spot, but I think ultimately you end up loosing.
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Hell my last employer tried to make me pay for repairs to a hotsie type pressure washer that I tried unloading myself and it rolled down a hill. Stupid on my part yes, my responsibility to pay for it, no, it was an accident.

I told them I would look into prices for parts and make a decision, I actually called me neighbor who is a lawyer and told me not to pay a cent they have insurance for accidents.

When I told them about it they changed their tune claiming they didn't know it was an accident, but claimed they weren't calling me negligent (I was told that anytime anything was broken due to negligence employee was responsible before I called my neighbor.)

I quit the following week after they had me work 23.5 hours straight and not paying me my per diem because "You didn't stay in a hotel."
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:14 AM   #24
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Friday night at 6pm, your at dinner with your family and you get a call that someone just hit a 2" pvc pipe with a back hoe. You now have to interupt your dinner as well as, call your help and interupt his evening plans and the store manager of your supplier who is at dinner with his wife so he can come open up and get you 2 runs of 2ott 75ft, 1 run of 1 ott and 1 run of #4. By the time you both rush dinner along and get to the wire and get it cut its now 8:45pm. The job is a 1hr drive to get there and your there for 2 more hours and then you still have the 1hr drive home at midnight. You get home and in bed at 1:30am.

What would you charge for this?
Way more than you. He isn't legally allowed to have the employees pay for it either.
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ever hear of 1-800-dig-safe....your friend is at fault not his guys..he dropped the ball...
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ever hear of 1-800-dig-safe....your friend is at fault not his guys..he dropped the ball...
Do they locate lines on the customer side of the meter?
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Do they locate lines on the customer side of the meter?
I don't know what they do.

The last two times I called them the people who marked out the water only marked the curb, they didn't mark it up the front yard to the house like the gas company does.

And this was in two different areas with different water companies, so maybe they all just got lazy.

All I know is that I was 3 foot away from their marks on the curb so if I hit water with my ground rod, it's on them

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i read it as feed to meter...maybe i was wrong....
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i read it as feed to meter...maybe i was wrong....
I'm trying to figure out how they didn't get fireworks when they took the sawzall to it.
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Situations like this are why we have high presses.... worst case scenario you bury a condelt or a box and make It work....
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That was a good thing to do on your guys part.....but, in my opinion.....a crappy thing to do on the plumbers part (making his guys pay for it) Albeit they should have known better than to sawzall it out.....but that is part of business, and having employees. When they do right you make money. When they screw up....you loose money. The key is having employees that don't cost you money.....at least very often.

Karma is a bitch, and you guys earned your good deed points for the day.
Ditto. Their boss is a d*ck. Unless it's not the first time they screwed up like that... Although they're plumbers, even if it wasn't being used anymore they shouldn't have cut it without somebody confirming that first. You can never trust the HO!!

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In the past, when I've called 811 for a mark-out, they asked me how far back from the curb line I want them to mark...
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This was not the 1st time they had screwed up and he was tired of paying for it so he figured if they had to come out of pocket they would be more careful.
My friend is a very understanding guy which is why they still have their jobs.
It may not be legal but the guys new that they had screwed up so they didnt argue the point.
No sparks because when they hit it with the bucket it pulled the conductors right out of the disconnect.
From disconnect to indoor panel.
As far as "thats part of business" and "thats what insurance is for" In a real accident id say ok but sometimes you have to man up to your mistake or stupidity and take account for your actions. Thats part of whats wrong with our world today, we just put the blame on everyone but the rightful owner.

Thanks for your comments and input.
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