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Old 11-20-2014, 08:53 PM   #1
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Looking for some advice.

1. Moved to texas to get into electrical industry
2. Been spending my savings on tuition
3. Running out of funds. Don't get paid enough as a first year apprentice in TX to continue paying for college
4. Planning on moving out of state for better pay (Don't want this to get political, but planning on joining the union)

-This is a valid reason for asking for a raise or leaving a company right? I don't think I'm being selfish in placing education as a high priority.

-How would you ask your boss for a raise so it doesn't sound like an ultimatum?

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Old 11-20-2014, 08:57 PM   #2
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Looking for some advice.

1. Moved to texas to get into electrical industry
2. Been spending my savings on tuition
3. Running out of funds. Don't get paid enough as a first year apprentice in TX to continue paying for college
4. Planning on moving out of state for better pay (Don't want this to get political, but planning on joining the union)

How would you phrase this (Tell your boss about your circumstances and ask him for a raise) to your boss so it doesn't sound like an ultimatum?
"Sir, I would like to speak with you about getting a raise. I am very happy with where I am with this company and feel that my work shows that I am a valuable employee."

He doesn't want to hear your life story about how you don't make enough money. They only problem you may run in to with the statement above is if your work is crap. Lol
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:01 PM   #3
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For one thing, you need to figure out how much you would need to be making to cover your current expenses, and then you need to figure out how much of a pay increase that would be. If it's gonna take a 20% increase for you to stay in school, it likely doesn't matter how nicely you ask, you're not gonna get it, and you're still gonna be in the same boat.

Is your schooling applicable to your current job? If it isn't, then you're basically asking your current employer to subsidize training for your future employer, and they likely aren't going to be keen on that. You'll simply have to ask for a performance-based raise and hope that's adequate.

If your schooling will make you more valuable with your current employer, then you need to explain your financial difficulty, emphasize what you've done to try and resolve the problem yourself by cutting your personal expenses, and then explain how a raise would help your goal of ultimately contributing more effectively to the company.
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:03 PM   #4
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Very often, if you want something, ask for it. If I wanted a raise, I went in and asked for one. Not going to work if you haven't been there long. I want a raise and if not what can I do to get one. Direct, to the point.
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Looking for some advice.

1. Moved to texas to get into electrical industry
2. Been spending my savings on tuition
3. Running out of funds. Don't get paid enough as a first year apprentice in TX to continue paying for college
4. Planning on moving out of state for better pay (Don't want this to get political, but planning on joining the union)

-This is a valid reason for asking for a raise or leaving a company right? I don't think I'm being selfish in placing education as a high priority.

-How would you ask your boss for a raise so it doesn't sound like an ultimatum?
Threaten to walk if you do not get a raise.
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If you think you're being underpaid and are worth more than you're making then I'd have an open, honest conversation with the boss. But if you're making a fair wage based on experience, or lack thereof, I wouldn't expect a raise just to supplement your big aspirations.
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Likely the boss doesn't care about your higher education goals. I don't know if I'd threaten to walk out. If you feel your doing a good job, reliable etc, good employee, just ask. Not saying there's anything wrong with pursuing the higher education, remember it's your problem, not his or hers. Its admirable and to get it over with when you are younger is far easier.
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Threaten to walk if you do not get a raise.

That only works for a certain type of employee.
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What are you going to college for? Most states dont require college to be an electrician. Or at least not very much of it. Earned all my hours in the field. Spent a grand total of $0 on classes. Did spend $300 on books
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I think he's looking beyond, at some engineering. Nothing wrong with, wouldn't discourage anyone from looking further. Some of the trade classes, programs might be of marginal benefit.
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Looking for some advice.

1. Moved to texas to get into electrical industry
2. Been spending my savings on tuition
3. Running out of funds. Don't get paid enough as a first year apprentice in TX to continue paying for college
4. Planning on moving out of state for better pay (Don't want this to get political, but planning on joining the union)

-This is a valid reason for asking for a raise or leaving a company right? I don't think I'm being selfish in placing education as a high priority.

-How would you ask your boss for a raise so it doesn't sound like an ultimatum?
Sounds like you didn't think this career move out very carefully, and now you blame your employer for your short comings.
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I wouldn't expect a raise just to supplement your big aspirations.
I agree with your words, but there's something about the way you say it that rubs me the wrong way...

You're right though. Probably not going to happen. I'm being compensated at a fair rate for my region/contribution.
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I agree with your words, but there's something about the way you say it that rubs me the wrong

That's my specialty I hear. But it sucks I know. I've worked with a guy who started in the trade late that had sick kids and a wife who couldn't work and living in their parents basement all the while this guys making first year apprentice wages because he's just that. I'm sure anybody with a beating heart would want to give someone like that all the help they could but it's not the way it works. That guys a top hand with the same Union shop now and has never taken a layoff. Things get better. Or they don't. Life's rough
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For one thing, you need to figure out how much you would need to be making to cover your current expenses, and then you need to figure out how much of a pay increase that would be. If it's gonna take a 20% increase for you to stay in school, it likely doesn't matter how nicely you ask, you're not gonna get it, and you're still gonna be in the same boat.
Don't be so sure, I just received a raise that is just over 25% of what my old salary was this month, and it includes bonuses on top of that 25%.

Though that's not normal at all.

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didn't you just start a few months ago?
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didn't you just start a few months ago?
I started last week actually. I think the 14 day mark will be the right time to ask for that big promotion.
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I started last week actually. I think the 14 day mark will be the right time to ask for that big promotion.
You literally did just start a matter of months ago, 5 if I remember correctly, maybe a few more than that.

That attitude is why I do not see you getting a raise.
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I've worked side by side with people that had tons of student loan debt making the same as me. Did I feel bad for them? Sure. Did it matter? Nope.

You're getting ready to learn a lesson in the American capitalism system.
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