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Old 12-06-2016, 09:36 AM   #41
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Roger can you please explain what you are saying?
The OP doesn't have to re-route the water pipe conductor to the meter socket in this case. It can be connected to the SER's EGC. The connection in this case would be in the sub-panel.

Most inspectors in our area would allow this connection to be done in the grounding bus bar. If they insisted on an irreversible connection, then that can be done also in the panel.
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Old 12-06-2016, 09:56 AM   #42
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Thanks, I have to look that one up when I get back to the office. It's completely news to me but can help in some situations.
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Old 12-06-2016, 10:25 AM   #43
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This is seriously a horrible situation .... 20' behind a wall , we had to move the panels 20' over from the original spot and pull SEU along with 25 Rolex branch feeds through a very tiny spot and they are taped up in few spots.... I would literally need to pull out everything and start over at least 24 hrs of work ...ahhhhhh


At least 24 hrs of work??? For real? That's more like 8 hrs of work at maximum...


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Once you know is mandatory to start over and redo everything do not waste not even one minute thinking about it, just do it! It will be way less horrible that way.

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Old 12-06-2016, 11:42 AM   #46
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I just looked it up and see that you are definitely correct. I saw some discussion at Mike Holt's about it. I am not sure if I will be able to use it due to sizing like you mentioned earlier. Plus, it might be an issue dealing with inspectors. But it's still good to know!
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The OP doesn't have to re-route the water pipe conductor to the meter socket in this case. It can be connected to the SER's EGC. The connection in this case would be in the sub-panel.

Most inspectors in our area would allow this connection to be done in the grounding bus bar. If they insisted on an irreversible connection, then that can be done also in the panel.
That's a good thing to know. Never caught that before. Thanks!
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Freudian slip ?
May just reflect the charge being incurred.
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More likely just Ought To Correct.

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Old 12-07-2016, 06:14 AM   #50
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That's a good thing to know. Never caught that before. Thanks!
I learn about that section a while ago installing a service rated transfer switch and the water bond was on the opposite side of the house and the basement was finished with a permanent ceiling.
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Amazingly , we changed the wire in 2 hrs ... amazing how what seems like a nightmare turns easy and other things that are so simple turn into train wrecks


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