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Old 03-27-2019, 09:28 PM   #1
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Default Where can I find a socket for this?

I've done mostly resi work in the past, but a friend of mine bought a gas station a while back and someone backed into a j-box and took out the canopy lights. I need a square recessed plug socket. Where do I find them? Supply house I deal with doesn't stock explosion proof RMC fittings. Any ideas?
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Old 03-27-2019, 09:33 PM   #2
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grainger.com for one but any larger supply house should have them.
you wont find them in hardware stores unless you have them order them for you.
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set of 12 point sockets is good for square nuts

oops, didn't look close enough, not nuts at all.

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I have been doing industrial work for almost 40 years and I have never seen a socket that fits those plugs. Go to Fastenal and get a piece of square stock and use Crescent wrench on the stock.
If they are poured they may not come out. Then you have to crack them with 2 ball pein hammers.
If you are lucky you might find a 12 point socket that will fit on the stock.
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Did you try a 3/8" ratchet?
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Did you try a 3/8" ratchet?


Or 1/2 inch. The ones I have done in the past were 1/2 ratchet. But those look smaller


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On an EYS, it's a 1/4" drive on the small "pour" plugs, 1/2" ratchet on the XP plug in the vertical.. To me those look like 1/2" ratchet..
I'll ask a dumb question... What do you expect to do IF you can get the plug out? They are a poured fitting that has the equivalent to cement in them. You won't be adding or repulling conductors without cutting the seal apart.. Even with STL on the threads, when they are poured properly, they are typically a b!tch to get out afterwards.
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Then you have to crack them with 2 ball pein hammers.
Yep.
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I think you have a decent chance of finding a cheated pour at a gas station. A couple of hits with a beater screwdriver might get you there.
I thing I remember opening them with a 1/2" rachet or maybe being disappointed it didn't fit.
Its much better to smash them and not let the chunks fall into the pipe.
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See the attachment. What a pain in the ass it was to get this, even their product engineers struggled to find it. It should be available on their web site within ten clicks. Another disaster of a consolidated web site.

It's a 3/8" drive for 1/2" fittings, 1/2" drive for 3/4" and 1", 3/4" drive for 1-1/4" and 1-1/2", then 7/8" for 2" and up from there. The part number for the plug is PLGx - PLG1, PLG2, etc.

The only 1/2" to 3/4" adapter I could find locally was a Harbor Freight impact rated. I use regular 3/8" and 1/2" breaker bars and extensions and that adapter to open up to 1-1/2" which is as big as I've had to go.

Beyond that my plan is to buy 18" of the square stock and put a big wrench on the square stock.

The unpleasant surprise is that once you get the thing open, the worst part begins. If you're taking the whole thing apart, smashing them up sounds better.
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I'd always look inside first, 'round these parts it's prolly 50/50 that the chico was ever even poured.
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Good morning all. Thanks for all the replies. Honestly, I thought the fittings were just spun in and sealed with gas proof yellow pipe tape. It's 3/4 RMC. I'm just going to replace the entire assembly, fittings and all. If there isn't enough slack in the lines that were cut, I'll re-pull them.
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50/50 is betting odds for me. I'm in central Connecticut if that matters. This would be the third time a car has ran into something at the gas station in the past 3 months. Hartford drivers....
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Good morning all. Thanks for all the replies. Honestly, I thought the fittings were just spun in and sealed with gas proof yellow pipe tape. It's 3/4 RMC. I'm just going to replace the entire assembly, fittings and all. If there isn't enough slack in the lines that were cut, I'll re-pull them.
What all is damaged? In the first pic it looked like just the JB. If that is just a metal WP JB and maybe a broken nipple, that would be all I'd be replacing. If you start replacing conductors and an underground conduit is damaged, that could become a huge can of worms.
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Several of the nipples are bent. The jb is trashed, and the power feed lines for the canopy lights have been completely severed. I megged the other lines and they're good. Oddly enough, this box is outside of a class 1 location.
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50/50 is betting odds for me. I'm in central Connecticut if that matters. This would be the third time a car has ran into something at the gas station in the past 3 months. Hartford drivers....
Connecticut drivers....down here we call them something a little different by adding an 'N' in there.

They speed, pass on the shoulder, run lights/stop signs...so hitting a fixed object like a building seems par for their skill level.
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Or 1/2 inch. The ones I have done in the past were 1/2 ratchet. But those look smaller
I've only come across one odd ball plug that wasn't a standard ratchet drive size and it looked like an 8 pointed star.
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Connecticut drivers....down here we call them something a little different by adding an 'N' in there.

They speed, pass on the shoulder, run lights/stop signs...so hitting a fixed object like a building seems par for their skill level.

Think there bad down there? Try 3.5 million of 'em
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50/50 is betting odds for me. I'm in central Connecticut if that matters. This would be the third time a car has ran into something at the gas station in the past 3 months. Hartford drivers....
Grab me one of those blunt wraps while you're there. I have some "cigars" to roll.
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Think there bad down there? Try 3.5 million of 'em
I can only imagine.

They are easy to spot down here, normally seen on the shoulder passing somebody or just pulled over getting a ticket.

I'm sure they tell all their friends "Virginia is just a speed trap"!
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