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Old 07-20-2017, 02:20 PM   #1
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Homeowner + DIYer gave me a call after struggling to install a chandelier. I don't blame him! Worse than Ikea.

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Old 07-20-2017, 02:23 PM   #2
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Looks like a piece of cake... MUCH better than the last one I touched.
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Looks like a piece of cake... MUCH better than the last one I touched.
Don't get me wrong, it's an easy build for us guys who have done multiple chandeliers. Definitely not easy for a homeowner. Maybe that's the point!

It's more the steps that are terrible.

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It's that issue of trying to make one sheet that is (theoretically) good for anywhere in the world, any language, any electrical system. That's actually a tall order.

I love how part of the instructions show you where the bulb goes... I think if you can't figure that out on your own, you have no business doing this in the first place. put the box down and walk away...

Reminds me of a time years ago when I was doing residential work and was installing outdoor landscape lighting for a rich accountant type from India. He kept following me around asking stupid questions, pretty annoying, but then he asked me to take a look at a light fixture that wasn't working and brought it out to me. The bulb was burned out. I asked if he had more bulbs, he took me to his garage and opened a cupboard, he had dozens! Someone had told him that it was a good idea for him to keep a stock of them, but he had NO clue what to do with them. So I screwed in a new bulb and magically, his lamp worked! His son and mother in law then both brought me more lamps to "fix". I was charging him by the hour, so what the heck. I went around his whole house changing bulbs, plugging things back into sockets, all kinds of stupid stuff. But money is money...
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This is a light a woman bought this light for her dentist office last year or so. I told her to send it back. But here's a pic of the instructions before I packed it back up.
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This is a light a woman bought this light for her dentist office last year or so. I told her to send it back. But here's a pic of the instructions before I packed it back up.
I've put similar up. Just mount the strap to a box like you normally would.
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I've put similar up. Just mount the strap to a box like you normally would.
No, the canopy was smaller than the hole in the sheetrock. Standard round ceiling box. It might have worked on a square-to-round mudring. But not with what she had.

The reason I posted was the instructions. Comedy gold.
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Essex could have put it up.
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It's that issue of trying to make one sheet that is (theoretically) good for anywhere in the world, any language, any electrical system. That's actually a tall order.

I love how part of the instructions show you where the bulb goes... I think if you can't figure that out on your own, you have no business doing this in the first place. put the box down and walk away...

Reminds me of a time years ago when I was doing residential work and was installing outdoor landscape lighting for a rich accountant type from India. He kept following me around asking stupid questions, pretty annoying, but then he asked me to take a look at a light fixture that wasn't working and brought it out to me. The bulb was burned out. I asked if he had more bulbs, he took me to his garage and opened a cupboard, he had dozens! Someone had told him that it was a good idea for him to keep a stock of them, but he had NO clue what to do with them.

( You were being deceived. )

So I screwed in a new bulb and magically, his lamp worked! His son and mother in law then both brought me more lamps to "fix". I was charging him by the hour, so what the heck. I went around his whole house changing bulbs, plugging things back into sockets, all kinds of stupid stuff. But money is money...
What you were dealing was not stupidity -- but Caste thinking.

If the fellow was a Brahmin it would be irreligious for him to TOUCH ANYTHING... to work with his hands... even something as idiot obvious and trivially easy as replacing lamps. There is no chance that he was a dummy.

His entire family would feign ignorance, right along with him, as they must be Brahmin, too.

( There are other Varna that have similar 'hand' restrictions, too. )

THIS is THE major reason why India can't get out of first gear.

An astounding number of their elites are religiously forbidden to work with their hands -- even punching a keyboard is often deemed a step too far. (!!!!)

This also ties right in to why so many tradesmen find that getting paid by Indians is a nightmare.

Back in the old country, house repairs are performed by the lowest castes. They are expected to be employed as an act of charity, and to be given -- naturally -- token charity payments -- and some bowls of food -- rather as if they're monks.

It boggles their minds that REAL money has to change hands here in America.

From where they come from, such a situation is unethical... wrongful.

Bottom rank Indian castes just don't immigrate to the USA. No H1-b for them. So we don't come into contact with their preconceptions... which are just as shocking.

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When my parents gave an Indian rickshaw driver a $1 payment... his mind reeled at the largesse. That was a month's income for him.

So you can see why a Brahmin figures your sweat is worth a bowl of rice. He's been raised in what amounts to being a slave-caste society.
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Up his ass.
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I don't read instructions...I'm thinking of changing the
name of my business to "C Griswold electric"...your illumination
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This is a light a woman bought this light for her dentist office last year or so. I told her to send it back. But here's a pic of the instructions before I packed it back up.
was that light UL listed?
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Are the directions written in Ching-English? I didn't bother to zoom in and try to read them.
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was that light UL listed?
Maybe if 'UL' means Uncle Larry!
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What you were dealing was not stupidity -- but Caste thinking.

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Huh. In all the years since then, that never occurred to me. But knowing some Indian families around here, I see it now.

Summabich...
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