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Old 01-19-2017, 07:14 AM   #61
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Old 01-19-2017, 07:43 AM   #62
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Recent deal> Renovated restaurant , sat for 4 years after a flood. AHJ made GC take sheetrock hiding old wiring down, then talked the state out of any repairs to it

Enter Chicken electric, wired the kitchen NEW, dealt with the rest as best as possible WITH the understanding it was not 100%

Rest owner then with holds final check, on basis of 'electric isn't right' in said areas, even though we may have had nothing to do with it



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Being that you're also a licensed chiropractor, you could toss a late night adjustment on him...
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Recent deal> Renovated restaurant , sat for 4 years after a flood. AHJ made GC take sheetrock hiding old wiring down, then talked the state out of any repairs to it

Enter Chicken electric, wired the kitchen NEW, dealt with the rest as best as possible WITH the understanding it was not 100%

Rest owner then with holds final check, on basis of 'electric isn't right' in said areas, even though we may have had nothing to do with it



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This has absolutely nothing to do with liability. This has everything to do with lack of communication between you and the owner. Who's fault do you think that is?
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Make him sign my proposal prior to beginning work in the first place, the one that states clearly we are not responsible for any existing defect in the wiring system of the structure that we are not contracted for to repair , discover, or cannot discover due to building finishes in place.


Your mess calls for a mechanics lein and foreclosure suit , however I bet that you left behind enough mistakes of your own to have any action you take upon the building owner negated by the courts and you would loose the upper hand.
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Obviously you can't assume responsibility for all prior work every time you touch something. But once you lay eyes on it, if you pretend you didn't see it - that could get you in hot water. I wouldn't close up anything until it was corrected. Bringing this up with the owner and discussing payment beforehand is really important. Even if the owner says or signs something letting you off the hook, that won't stop the lawyers if something goes sideways.

I think the megger test is a good idea. It shows that you are taking reasonable measures to see that the wiring is OK. Not infallible measures - make that clear. Also make it clear that it is a can of worms, BEFORE you open it. It could lead to a lot of work.

I guess if you really wanted to see whether things are in order, you could test for shared hots / shared neutrals at the panel, check for current on the EGCs, etc.

Speaking of cans of worms, I guess you could arc fault the circuits you find halfassed workmanship on...
True, I saw one panel so bad I stated counting the violations, but stopped at 50 and called the chief inspector because I didn't want to credit for the mess, I was contracted to clean up.
He came out and called the previous electrician and proceeded to ream him a new one.
The inspector required all wiring be checked with high voltage megger, since half the house was burned.
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