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Wow! Anybody read the new article in EC&M on....

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...pool shock hazards? I think it is fair to say that I will NEVER be doing any pool work again.:no:
 
#7 ·
A town near here had to sue an electrical contractor because the contractor used grc instead of red brass to hook up some lights. There was a rumor going around here that the contractor painted the grc red. The city quit using the lights because they filled with rust and feard that they might electrocuit someone.

Sadly a couple of kids drowned in the pool the first week of the trial. I don't think they determined that they drowned due to lack of light but it was suspected.


A pool is not a place to cut corners or take a guess at how to do things.
 
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They do it here in a few jurisdictions, honestly it's a giant PITA. I say that because its cut throat and money motivated not safety motivated. I worked for larger pool company and did theirs for about 3 years but I guess that because I actually checked stuff and wrote up repair lists and would not sign off until fixed. I guess I'm not good for their business.
 
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While the root causes of both electrocutions may prove to be different — and remain to be clarified within a legal framework — the incidents appear similar in one respect: They point to a likely blend of negligence, incompetence, and ignorance — a potentially lethal combination when working with a pool’s electrical infrastructure. In a larger sense, the electrocutions serve as a reminder of what’s at stake when pools are designed, installed, and maintained — not to mention the need for safe components, competent personnel, and routine maintenance.

In the court of public opinion, our trade will be confronted....yet again

But is it really our 'negligence, incompetence, and ignorance' ?

Consider how many pool installs are performed via 'pool company guys' , only to have the 'electrician' run power to it

Consider how many are actually inspected, or have statutes in the lower 48

Consider how many are maintained by non electricians

~CS~
 
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you wonder why Low Voltage Lights are not mandatory for pools .

Pete
Write a code change proposal.
Personally I can not remember the last time I saw anything but low voltage pool lights.

I need to keep a copy of this article in my vehicle for the next time the EC accuses me of being too picky on a pool inspection.

I will admit a pool inspection is one inspection that I am extremely picky with. I spend a good amount of time going over every detail and connection.
 
#27 ·
Small pools and spas can use fiber optic stuff. The requirements to have pool lighting is so people can see the bottom when diving, the steps etc., at night time.

Nothing wrong with 120 v lighting if installed correctly. Older pools with rusted GRC, deck boxes that have turned to dust inside, lights with no GFCI, and lighting poles that are ungrounded are a major problem. The fact that the GFCI will not hold on a retrofit, and that the customer continues to use the light instead of disconnecting resulted in child and father both dying from electrocution in a pool recently.

Commercial pools require lighting, CA State Law requires GFCI retrofit but not for SFD.
 
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