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Old 08-05-2013, 10:35 PM   #181
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I have a #4 running from bottom ground bar to ATS..
My house is green, but you still need to relocate the GEC to the ATS.
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:39 PM   #182
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I thought lipa didn't allow line and load wires to cross in that meter bypass pan. Does the #4 water ground and rod now go back to the service rated transfer switch? Also any old 3 wire dryer and ranges changed to 4-wire as that is no longer a main breaker panel?
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Nice job B . If It was my hand dealt, there would have probably been a gas meter right under that mess.
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:42 PM   #184
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250.24 Grounding Service-Supplied Alternating-Current Systems.

(A) (1) General. The grounding electrode conductor connection shall be made at any accessible point from the load end of the service drop or service lateral to and including the terminal or bus to which the grounded service conductor is connected at the service disconnecting means
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250.64(C) Continuous. Grounding electrode conductor(s) shall be installed in one continuous length without a splice or joint except as permitted in (1) and (2):

(1) Splicing shall be permitted only by irreversible compression-type connectors listed as grounding and bonding equipment or by the exothermic welding pro-cess.

(2) Sections of busbars shall be permitted to be connected together to form a grounding electrode conductor.
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My house is green, but you still need to relocate the GEC to the ATS.
I have never been call on that.. what is wrong with #4 jumper going to ATS..
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I have never been call on that.. what is wrong with #4 jumper going to ATS..
The GEC has to be continuous or irreversibly spliced, see above.
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Also any old 3 wire dryer and ranges changed to 4-wire as that is no longer a main breaker panel?
I guess technically we should be doing this shouldn't we. I have not been.
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The GEC has to be continuous or irreversibly spliced, see above.
I understand what you are saying.. but I haven't come across a generator job yet where the GEC was crimped and run to ATS...
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I have done it on the 25+ generators I have done since Sandy. I carry crimps for #4 and #6 CU, and #2 AL. I think it is kind of silly, but what can you do.

Do it right, or do it twice...
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I thought lipa didn't allow line and load wires to cross in that meter bypass pan. Does the #4 water ground and rod now go back to the service rated transfer switch? Also any old 3 wire dryer and ranges changed to 4-wire as that is no longer a main breaker panel?
Our utilities do not allow crossing.
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I have never been call on that.. what is wrong with #4 jumper going to ATS..
That's because even some inspectors don't know what they're looking at! Checkout MH's Grounding and Bonding videos on Youtube! The Nexus ATS is service rated and therefore the grounding electrodes bond to the grounded neutral here, not in the old mb panel. The reason you cannot connect from one bonding block to another from panel to panel is because the electrode conductor must be continuous.
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What crimping tool do you guys use.. my hydraulic crimper is not going to fit..
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What crimping tool do you guys use.. my hydraulic crimper is not going to fit..
The little greenlee k111 or the T&B version hand crimpers are good for little stuff like 8, 6, 4 in panels
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