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Old 11-19-2012, 03:05 AM   #81
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I look at it this way , everyone has to do what they have to , to survive . Collecting unemployment and waiting for a call to work from the union doesn't always cut it ! As far as getting caught , it's easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission .
Typical, the rules are only the rules if they are easy.


So I assume if the contractor you are working for ignores the rules you have no problem with that?
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:25 AM   #82
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6 months from the 1st day your actually start working. I'm going to assume your an apprentice 1st year 1st half.

cw3/local 25
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cw3/local 25
Does your local require 14,000 hours (7 years) for the cw/ce program to become a JW?
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Does your local require 14,000 hours (7 years) for the cw/ce program to become a JW?

Yes from what i know. I just got sworn in so theres alot i need to learn politics wise.
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Yes from what i know. I just got sworn in so theres alot i need to learn politics wise.
Politics is easy...listen more than you speak. No one ever lost their job because of listening and learning.

Stay out of any discussions about work on the "outside" at first...it will just brand you as an "outsider". Listen and figure out what the guys you're working with are about.

Never offer up anything before it's asked.

Lastly...and these are words that I've learned to love:

Before you "say" or "write" something...think of these 3 Rules first:

1. Does it need to be said...?

2. Does it need to be said...by ME?

3. Does it need to be said...by Me...NOW?


Follow those and you'll be ok...HELL...if I could remember to follow those more often I'd be OK! LOL

But seriously...a wise mentor of mine told me that a long time ago...and I'm just realizing how good that saying is now a days...
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Typical, the rules are only the rules if they are easy.

So I assume if the contractor you are working for ignores the rules you have no problem with that?
Well , I'm not exactly sure what you're implying here BBQ , but I'm not breaking any rules . As far as signatory union contractors , they need to follow a lot of rules or stand the risk of bring reported to the locals ! The local I belong to has a different stance on what people need to do to survive while the unemployment rate is still so high . They don't necessarily want to know what one does to supplement their income while being laid off , but they understand the reasons why people do what they do .
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Every Local is different...with different rules and penalties for "moonlighting". It is against the rules of the IO...some locals take that more seriously than others. It also depends on how involved with the IO the individual Local is. LU3 is very involved with the IO...we are the bank. So we have to be the way we are as we are always under scrutiny.
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where is that, Long Island!
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where is that, Long Island!

sorry for the delay bros im kinda all over at the moment. Thanks for the tip Icefalkon and yes local 25 covers long island Nassau/Suffolk counties.
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Has the local barred apprentice from working the solar arrays? Local #11 has been having calls on a regular basis putting out even on book 4 (with out a state certification???) Something just does not add up?
Hi, I am just getting back to this. Yes, I am a member. See my other thread. Many arrays are being built by a combination of laborers (doing a majority of the work), and non-union ECs (doing the tie-in). It's a huge blow to us. Work is unbelievably slow here, even worse than it was during the '08 recession.
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