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Old 04-15-2011, 06:51 PM   #21
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For those who will read this who are non-union....
you may want to work an hour or two for free , or drive your own trucks full of shop material for free , or wait weeks even months without working just to keep working for the same contractor . Whatever you want to do non-union you're welcome to do . When it comes to Union contracts , obligations , and rules then that is a whole other ball park .
I have never worked for free. I'm provided full use of a company truck. I've never been laid off. Hell I was running small jobs when I was a second year apprentice. I got my own dept. as a 3rd year apprentice. Anyways, rules are rules and if the guy hasn't paid he shouldn't be working. Hope you get more hours this year.
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Old 04-15-2011, 07:53 PM   #22
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\"Hell I was running small jobs when I was a second year apprentice. I got my own dept. as a 3rd year apprentice.\" Thats an oxymoron, like jumbo shrimp.
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Went to our Union meeting tonight and was blown away when we were having a discussion on re-admitting a member who was 7 months behind on his dues...and still working with a local contractor .

The contractor was sent a letter from the IO stating that they were to no longer employ this individual due to lack of membership . I've worked 3 weeks in 2 years and have kept my dues up . My husband hasen't worked in our local in 3 yrs ( one yr due to surgery) and is still current on dues . We have 55 people on book 1 , a record high , and this idiot is applying for membership again while still working under a Union contractor that was notified not to employ him!!

Our business manager was irritated when those of us stood up and asked why and how this guy is still working . Just goes to show you how well oiled he is by the contractors .

Our book 1 has not moved in over 6 months due to "shoppies" furloughing . Fine if they want to do it , just do it non-union . There is a reason for the contracts we have , and the book system .

For those who will read this who are non-union....
you may want to work an hour or two for free , or drive your own trucks full of shop material for free , or wait weeks even months without working just to keep working for the same contractor . Whatever you want to do non-union you're welcome to do . When it comes to Union contracts , obligations , and rules then that is a whole other ball park .
I feel your pain because I was there...only on the other side. In our case, it was called furlough. We were too good to let go but not good enough to work "STEADY". I was hungry...so I played the game, but I do understand.
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Old 04-16-2011, 04:04 AM   #24
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I did not and do not, understand Canadian Apprentice rules. This is a VERY TOUGH situation for you and your family. Being unemployed has many negative effects beyond a lack of money. Depression for one.

GOOD LUCK.

I'm not Canadian , although the border is 80 miles away . Every local is different on bylaws....but the apprentices in Montana are looked over by a state apprentice director . Anyone ever hear of 2 different books for apprentices ? That's what he told me...one for out of work apprentices , and one for sliding time apprentices .... His exact words on the e-mail he sent me . We don't sign an out of work list...the apprentice director "keeps track" of all of that . Thought it was just me....but have heard from so many app how this guy has screwed them over .

Lack of money...yes . Depression..yes . Mind over matter , although sometimes that doesn't work . What kills me is when I did work , JW's didn't understand why . I'm not Gods gift to electrical work , but I do work hard and love what I do . Never had a bad report......but htey never read those things anyway .

Sorry..ranting again...must be a woman trait !

I'll finish off by saying that every man or woman should go to thier job with the mind frame of going the best work they can , without compromising thier work ethics .
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\"Hell I was running small jobs when I was a second year apprentice. I got my own dept. as a 3rd year apprentice.\" Thats an oxymoron, like jumbo shrimp.
I guess to further explain I was running small jobs (under 10k) new construction and remodel and then I went from that to running our Service division. Sorry I should have been more clear.
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