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Old 03-28-2011, 10:09 AM   #41
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Believe in the trade, the union way, or get out and do something totally different. Union is the only way to work in construction, it is a no brainer. If you can't do that, you shouldn't do electrical work.
Yeah, good luck with that.
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Old 03-28-2011, 10:29 AM   #42
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Believe in the trade, the union way, or get out and do something totally different. Union is the only way to work in construction, it is a no brainer. If you can't do that, you shouldn't do electrical work.

Boy that seems to be a pro-American stance. My way or the highway.

I say we shoot the open shop electricians?

And how much of the market share do you have in Memphis?
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Boy that seems to be a pro-American stance. My way or the highway.

I say we shoot the open shop electricians?

And how much of the market share do you have in Memphis?

Probably less then 10%.
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:47 PM   #44
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Just heard the following

We have 9000 members

Close to 900 on the bench

Of that 900 typically there are 350 that are constant bench warmers even in the best of times, looking for short calls or work at the convention centers, supplimenting income?

We are currently interviewing apprentices.

Taking appplications for next year's apprentices.

Not taking any mechanics off the street at this time.
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Probably less then 10%.

If I were him, I'd be nice to those open shop men, you might be working for them some day.

And if you get out and do something totally different aren't you hurting another union. What are you selfish?
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Old 03-28-2011, 09:21 PM   #46
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Boy that seems to be a pro-American stance. My way or the highway.

I say we shoot the open shop electricians?

And how much of the market share do you have in Memphis?
I am just saying it is the only smart way to work. Here in Memphis, in construction, it is just about the only way to get a decent retirement, health and welfare, etc. Non-union is a neverending begging game where you step on the next guys neck and suck ass to get ahead. Sure you might get a decent deal at an open shop since it is a free agency, but to me its not worth it.
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I am just saying it is the only smart way to work. Here in Memphis, in construction, it is just about the only way to get a decent retirement, health and welfare, etc. Non-union is a neverending begging game where you step on the next guys neck and suck ass to get ahead. Sure you might get a decent deal at an open shop since it is a free agency, but to me its not worth it.
Thanks for the clarification.

Are you working?
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I have never missed a day that I didn't want to. I work hard, very hard and do my job. Not bragging, I just think thats what it takes to stand out and make yourself someone worth keeping. If you make yourself valuable, it doesn't matter who you work for, when times get slow, the shop is going to find somewhere to put your time.
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I have never missed a day that I didn't want to. I work hard, very hard and do my job. Not bragging, I just think thats what it takes to stand out and make yourself someone worth keeping. If you make yourself valuable, it doesn't matter who you work for, when times get slow, the shop is going to find somewhere to put your time.
Amazing how I can agree with you despite being non-union.
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I think a lot of the disagreements union/non union arise from bad personal experiences people have had with the other side. I will agree that there are alot of people in the union that give the union the bad perception it gets. There are alot of really good guys that are union though. Just as I know there are really good non union guys. The only difference is that I am bright eyed enough to still believe in the union. I believe it is an important factor still in the labor movement. You can believe in that and still work hard everyday, cant you? I think thats what its all about.
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Amazing how I can agree with you despite being non-union.
Why would that make a difference?
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Why would that make a difference?
That was exactly my point.

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Non-union is a neverending begging game where you step on the next guys neck and suck ass to get ahead.
That kind of mentality only drives a wedge between both sectors, and in my opinion undermines the overall goal of a union. Brotherhood my @ss if you're gonna spit on how I try to make it in this world.

I'm repeating myself from the other day, but who wouldn't want union benefits and pay? People base a lot of their decisions on how much money they will be making, so there's a reason why the IBEW doesn't have 90% of the market cornered. I'll let the union boys figure that out.
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i just don't understand why so many non union people would want to hang out on a union thread. well i really could guess why, but I don't think I have to say it.
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i just don't understand why so many non union people would want to hang out on a union thread. well i really could guess why, but I don't think I have to say it.
Alright, let me into your local then.
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come on down they will let anyone in
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i just don't understand why so many non union people would want to hang out on a union thread. well i really could guess why, but I don't think I have to say it.
Who is open shop?
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it sounded to me like frisbee was
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it sounded to me like frisbee was
He is, but said so many people.

In an open forum you get all kinds posting in any of the threads.
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I think a lot of the disagreements union/non union arise from bad personal experiences people have had with the other side.
I think you are very wrong about that.
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