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Old 01-21-2012, 09:22 PM   #1
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I do commercial work and am not involved in purchasing or planning decisions. The guys I work with never touch residential at all. I do what I'm told to do and so I never learn about the up and downsides of panels, I just work with what I'm given.

I just bought a home and need to replace the old POS fused panel and have to choose a new one. Money is not really an issue; I want to put in a quality load centre. What do you guys recommend for installation, especially if it was in your own home?
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:25 PM   #2
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If it were my house , sq.D QO's...imho
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Second the QO
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Any particular reason? Quality? Affordability? Or because you can pinch breakers from work?
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I would use Cutler Hammer CH
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I would use Cutler Hammer CH
Same question... Why? Or why not the others?
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I use CH at work, they are good but the Sq-D stuff is a little more solid, seems to be built better.
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If i changed out my switch gear in my own commercial bldg. i would go with I LINE SQ.D ,the aforementioned sq.d QO'S in my houseQuality..
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:56 PM   #9
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Stablok because you can weld with their 15a breakers.
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CH is what I install. I dont like the neutral bar set up on QO, I also find that the metal expands on the breakers where it connects to the bus.

The CH panels have a higher AIC rating, a copper bus, a recessed nuetral bar for Snap on afci's, is physically larger and has many more provisions on the neutral bar. Also I can get the CH panel for less then the QO panel.
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Keep in mind that most of the replies you are getting are from American posters, and the layout of the loadcentres may be different due to 6-306.
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If it were my house I would put a QO panel in but I don't have much experience with anything else as almost every house where I live has a QO panel. Burtielectric what don't you like about the neutral bar? I've never had an issue with not enough space. Maybe they're different in Canada.

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Something that has thrown me off about the panels up here is that almost always you can take the dead front off and all the lugs for the phases and neutral are separated from the breakers.

It's not a bad idea. Just a little different.
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Something that has thrown me off about the panels up here is that almost always you can take the dead front off and all the lugs for the phases and neutral are separated from the breakers.

It's not a bad idea. Just a little different.
If it is a load centre it should be always.
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If it is a load centre it should be always.
Not so in the states.
I'm an American transplant.
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Something that has thrown me off about the panels up here is that almost always you can take the dead front off and all the lugs for the phases and neutral are separated from the breakers.

It's not a bad idea. Just a little different.
Yes, I know.
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Yes, I know.
Nice, Columbo. It was you who stated the obvious.

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If it is a load centre it should be always.
I'm kind of still getting oriented again.
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If it is a load centre it should be always.
I agree. I know I feel safer with that barrier there when I'm working in an energized panel.
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Like I said, not a bad idea, just different.

It seems more regulated than the states in general.
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Nice, Columbo. It was you who stated the obvious.



I'm kind of still getting oriented again.

Not trying to be an ass, meant yes I know you are a transplant.

Also, I prefer Kojak


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