Milwaukee Hackzall's - Page 2 - Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum
CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY, IT'S FREE!
Go Back   Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum > Electrical Trade Topics > Residential Electrical Forum


Like Tree29Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-25-2019, 09:06 AM   #21
Mensa Player
 
HackWork's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: -
Posts: 34,319
Rewards Points: 1,805
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 99cents View Post
He said in his opening post that it vibrated like crazy. That means the pipe is moving with the saw blade. You will never cut anything unless the shoe is snug against the pipe and the pipe stays stationary.
Yes, if you look at the top you will see where I explained that he had to hold the pipe tight against the guard to avoid that. But that doesn't change the fact that the Fuel model is significantly more powerful. It's a night and day difference. I've had the non-Fuel bog down while cutting thru older 2x framing, and it's a dog on thicker steel.

Quote:
My preference is 18V anyway. Longer blade travel and lots of power.
While the tool itself is around the same size, the M18 battery is much larger and heavier. If I needed more power than the M12 Fuel, I would skip over the M18 model and just get the conventional M18 sawzall, which is a brute.
__________________
Perfection is the enemy of perfectly adequate.
HackWork is online now   Reply With Quote
Join Contractor Talk

Join the #1 Electrician Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

ElectricianTalk.com - Are you a Professional Electrical Contractor? If so we invite you to join our community and see what it has to offer. Our site is specifically designed for you and it's the leading place for electricians to meet online. No homeowners asking DIY questions. Just fellow tradesmen who enjoy talking about their business, their trade, and anything else that comes up. No matter what your specialty is you'll find that ElectricianTalk.com is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally free!

Join ElectricianTalk.com - Click Here JOIN FOR FREE


Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ElectricianTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-25-2019, 10:32 AM   #22
Petulant Amateur
 
99cents's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Perky Nipples, Canada
Posts: 20,951
Rewards Points: 12,269
Default

Personal preference I guess. I use the Bosch 18V now which is a Milwaukee clone. Even with a fat 6.3 battery, it’s easy to use. A full blown Sawzall is a completely different beast. I have one but never use it.
99cents is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 10:37 AM   #23
Mensa Player
 
HackWork's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: -
Posts: 34,319
Rewards Points: 1,805
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 99cents View Post
Personal preference I guess. I use the Bosch 18V now which is a Milwaukee clone. Even with a fat 6.3 battery, it’s easy to use. A full blown Sawzall is a completely different beast. I have one but never use it.
I haven't had to use a sawzall in a long time since the M12 Fuel Hackzawl does everything that I need. The last time I used a sawzall was to cut an 8" exhaust hole thru a very old house which had multiple sheathings.

The non-Fuel M12 Hackzawl is good for some instances, and if you have the money to spend on both then its fine. But the OP seems to only want to buy 1 tool now, so the Fuel model makes more sense, IMO.
__________________
Perfection is the enemy of perfectly adequate.
HackWork is online now   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-25-2019, 10:46 AM   #24
Senior Member
 
sbrn33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: middle america
Posts: 11,501
Rewards Points: 3,404
Default

The M12 bandsaw gives me a woody.
splatz likes this.
sbrn33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 11:18 AM   #25
Petulant Amateur
 
99cents's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Perky Nipples, Canada
Posts: 20,951
Rewards Points: 12,269
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HackWork View Post
I haven't had to use a sawzall in a long time since the M12 Fuel Hackzawl does everything that I need. The last time I used a sawzall was to cut an 8" exhaust hole thru a very old house which had multiple sheathings.

The non-Fuel M12 Hackzawl is good for some instances, and if you have the money to spend on both then its fine. But the OP seems to only want to buy 1 tool now, so the Fuel model makes more sense, IMO.
Yeah, like I say, personal preference. The 18V can handle some pretty gnarly chit but it is bigger and bulkier.
99cents is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 11:54 AM   #26
zac
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: CA
Posts: 3,024
Rewards Points: 822
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rey View Post
Those are pretty efficient but too noisy for me, however, they could be deemed on the versatile side by changing the blade to a wood blade.

But we are electricians - not carpenters.

I like the m12 hackzalls and will head down to HD to go see how the fuel feels in my hands compared to the non fuel.
I find that people who say that use an impact over a fuel drill (all m12).

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
zac is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 12:47 PM   #27
Rey
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 41
Rewards Points: 70
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HackWork View Post
I haven't had to use a sawzall in a long time since the M12 Fuel Hackzawl does everything that I need. The last time I used a sawzall was to cut an 8" exhaust hole thru a very old house which had multiple sheathings.

The non-Fuel M12 Hackzawl is good for some instances, and if you have the money to spend on both then its fine. But the OP seems to only want to buy 1 tool now, so the Fuel model makes more sense, IMO.
@HackWork, which blades and batteries do you like/prefer for the m12 fuel hackzall?
Rey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 12:48 PM   #28
Rey
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 41
Rewards Points: 70
Default

sorry for the repost...

Last edited by Rey; 04-25-2019 at 12:54 PM.
Rey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 12:58 PM   #29
Senior Member
 
sbrn33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: middle america
Posts: 11,501
Rewards Points: 3,404
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rey View Post
sorry for the repost...
You better be or we will kick you to the curb in a second.

Have you stepped in any human waste this week?
sbrn33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 02:47 PM   #30
Petulant Amateur
 
99cents's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Perky Nipples, Canada
Posts: 20,951
Rewards Points: 12,269
Default

Diablo blades are the best bang for the buck (made by Bosch I think). Milwaukee blades are overpriced.
99cents is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 03:25 PM   #31
Rey
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 41
Rewards Points: 70
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 99cents View Post
Diablo blades are the best bang for the buck (made by Bosch I think). Milwaukee blades are overpriced.
I can get Milwaukee blades @ cost + 10% so I'm good there. How many tpi do you like for EMT? I've ususally just went with 32tpi or 24tpi. I see Milwaukee makes some EMT blades but they are 14tpi

And then it seems at least the 4.0 batteries for the 12v fuel is recommended to get any real work done?
Rey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 03:32 PM   #32
Mensa Player
 
HackWork's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: -
Posts: 34,319
Rewards Points: 1,805
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rey View Post
@HackWork, which blades and batteries do you like/prefer for the m12 fuel hackzall?
My father gave me a could hundred sawzall blades so I just use them. I don't even know the TPI. I just pick one with a lot of small teeth for metal and bigger teeth for wood.

I did buy some of those short Milwaukee blades which have come in handy a couple times.

The nice thing about the M12 line is that you can use the smaller batteries when needed. Sometimes you have to get the Hackzall into a tight spot and the 2.0 or 3.0 little battery works best. All other times I use the larger XC sized 4.0 or 6.0 batteries.
Rey likes this.
__________________
Perfection is the enemy of perfectly adequate.
HackWork is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 03:48 PM   #33
Rey
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 41
Rewards Points: 70
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HackWork View Post
My father gave me a could hundred sawzall blades so I just use them. I don't even know the TPI. I just pick one with a lot of small teeth for metal and bigger teeth for wood.

I did buy some of those short Milwaukee blades which have come in handy a couple times.

The nice thing about the M12 line is that you can use the smaller batteries when needed. Sometimes you have to get the Hackzall into a tight spot and the 2.0 or 3.0 little battery works best. All other times I use the larger XC sized 4.0 or 6.0 batteries.

Okay, thanks.
Rey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 05:59 PM   #34
Petulant Amateur
 
99cents's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Perky Nipples, Canada
Posts: 20,951
Rewards Points: 12,269
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HackWork View Post
My father gave me a could hundred sawzall blades so I just use them. I don't even know the TPI. I just pick one with a lot of small teeth for metal and bigger teeth for wood.

I did buy some of those short Milwaukee blades which have come in handy a couple times.

The nice thing about the M12 line is that you can use the smaller batteries when needed. Sometimes you have to get the Hackzall into a tight spot and the 2.0 or 3.0 little battery works best. All other times I use the larger XC sized 4.0 or 6.0 batteries.
Same here. Small teeth metal; big, ugly teeth, wood. I was using 1/2” EMT for stakes and used an Axe blade. Worked good .
Rey likes this.
99cents is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 07:10 PM   #35
Rey
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 41
Rewards Points: 70
Default

ok, thanks guys.
Rey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 07:12 PM   #36
Rey
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 41
Rewards Points: 70
Default

Who has the best deal on the M12 Fuel Hackzall's?
Rey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 07:27 PM   #37
Beam Me Up Scotty
 
Kevin_Essiambre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 888
Rewards Points: 182
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HackWork View Post
I agree with this, if you are doing a good amount of conduit work.



But this...



..is kinda crazy. Since I don't do that much conduit work, I don't use my bandsaw often at all. For the 4-5 cuts I might have to do, I will use my M12 Fuel Hackzawl which cuts thru EMT like butter.



Walking out the the truck for a bandsaw to make 1 cut?
I also walk out to the van to get my bandsaw. The thing is awesome. Use it for EMT and just last week was using it to cut 500MCM copper on a 400 amp service... I had manual cutters beside me but went to get that bandsaw.

Sent from my Samsung using Tapatalk
tjb likes this.
__________________
"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy!"
Kevin_Essiambre is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 08:10 PM   #38
Hackenschmidt
 
splatz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 8,725
Rewards Points: 92
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Forge Boyz View Post
I will walk out to my truck to get the bandsaw a lot of times rather than pick up the sawzall right beside me for even one cut.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sbrn33 View Post
The M12 bandsaw gives me a woody.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin_Essiambre View Post
I also walk out to the van to get my bandsaw. The thing is awesome.
I'll walk out to get the bandsaw for one cut but that has nothing to do with saving time. Sometimes I go out and take it out, pull the trigger, chuckle, pull the trigger, chuckle, do that a few more times, then put it away and go back to work.
zac, tjb, Forge Boyz and 1 others like this.
__________________
Everything Should Be Made as Simple as Possible, But Not Simpler
splatz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 08:29 PM   #39
Mensa Player
 
HackWork's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: -
Posts: 34,319
Rewards Points: 1,805
Default

I gotta be honest with you, the bandsaw isn't that great.

I primarily use it to cut old 1-1/4" service risers down to 4' lengths when doing a service upgrade and it doesn't cut thru all that quickly. It's pretty good, but nothing that special. And the 5 or 6 cuts I make will bring a new 4.0 battery down to 2 bars. I've noticed that with all my newer 4.0's.
__________________
Perfection is the enemy of perfectly adequate.
HackWork is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 08:41 PM   #40
Hackenschmidt
 
splatz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 8,725
Rewards Points: 92
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HackWork View Post
I gotta be honest with you, the bandsaw isn't that great.

I primarily use it to cut old 1-1/4" service risers down to 4' lengths when doing a service upgrade and it doesn't cut thru all that quickly. It's pretty good, but nothing that special. And the 5 or 6 cuts I make will bring a new 4.0 battery down to 2 bars. I've noticed that with all my newer 4.0's.
I wonder if you got a lemon. I think I cut more strut than that to get to two bars and that's a lot harder than 1-1/4" conduit.
__________________
Everything Should Be Made as Simple as Possible, But Not Simpler
splatz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Milwaukee Tools and 9.0ah battery problems Going_Commando Tools, Equipment and New Products 27 11-22-2018 10:33 PM
Milwaukee M18, 9.0 battery warning 3DDesign Tools, Equipment and New Products 25 07-14-2017 08:22 PM
Harbor Freight Milwaukee Tool Knock Offs active1 Tools, Equipment and New Products 15 04-29-2017 07:46 PM
Issue Resolved-I'm not happy with Milwaukee Tools as a company HackWork Tools, Equipment and New Products 60 10-27-2016 07:16 PM
milwaukee 12v power tools HAL9000 Tools, Equipment and New Products 21 09-20-2016 12:45 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:45 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Our Pro Sites Network
ContractorTalk.com | DrywallTalk.com | HVACSite.com | PaintTalk.com | PlumbingZone.com | RoofingTalk.com