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Old 09-04-2017, 10:07 PM   #21
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Old 09-04-2017, 10:08 PM   #22
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Two 250 ft rolls at HD this morning would be close to 140 dollars. That 400 ft spool in the picture is almost 170 dollars. No thanks.
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Two 250 ft rolls at HD this morning would be close to 140 dollars. That 400 ft spool in the picture is almost 170 dollars. No thanks.
Yeah, most electrician don't get romex from Walmart.
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Damn in Canada those coils scream DIY, we do big houses 20,000 ft romex pulled easy, so we just buy 1000' coils


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Yeah, most electrician don't get romex from Walmart.
When Wally World is 15 minutes away and HD is over an hour ride....
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When Wally World is 15 minutes away and HD is over an hour ride....
What happens then? It's not sold in stores, it's from some guy selling crap thru Walmart's website.

This whole thing is fu*king ******ed. If I amend my post to say "You may be able to find the odd sized reel thru 5 or 6 homeowner and DIY resources" will you and Peter give it up already? Because apparently there is a problem with saying what every other electrician knows, that 250' coils and 1,000' reels are the normal options and it's very rare to see anything else.
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Nothing but 250 and 1000 foot at my supply house(12/2, 12/3, 14/2, 14/3, 10/2 ect).
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Nothing but 250 and 1000 foot at my supply house(12/2, 12/3, 14/2, 14/3, 10/2 ect).
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What happens then? It's not sold in stores, it's from some guy selling crap thru Walmart's website.

This whole thing is fu*king ******ed. If I amend my post to say "You may be able to find the odd sized reel thru 5 or 6 homeowner and DIY resources" will you and Peter give it up already? Because apparently there is a problem with saying what every other electrician knows, that 250' coils and 1,000' reels are the normal options and it's very rare to see anything else.
I never said the odd size rolls were common.

I get a lot of things from Wally World via the site to store free shipping.

Personally I have no need to buy any cable in more than a 250' roll.
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Well, since 1057 I have been buying NM cable, which many call Romex because Romex was the manufacturer or the original, now it is called NM cable. OK by me. And it used to be without a ground wire. That was 1957. It was some years before they started adding the ground wire, and about that time they started selling the white plastic covered stuff. All 250 foot coils.

Anyway, that is a bit over 60 years. And myself, I have never seen a 500 foot roll of romex, or NM cable. And if I did see some I would not buy it unless it was way less per foot than the 250 foot coils. Like someone above posted, I do not want to carry that weight around.

I clicked that Walmart link.......... $179.00 for a 400 foot roll of 12/2. For $156.00 I can buy four 250 foot coils of 12/2. 1000 feet for $156 VS $179 for 400 feet.......... man. Walmart getting 44.75 cents per foot vs home depot 15.6 cents per foot. Almost three times as much at Wally's.

Nope, I will stick with the Home Depot and other big box competition for mine and stick with carrying 250 foot coils, which I get very little waste of. I keep the cut offs and use them up in places where I only need short lengths. Heck, it is only 18' +/- foot pieces for receptacle wiring anyway that does not leave that much of a remnant from a coil.
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My old boss had one of these http://www.rack-a-tiers.com/product/16/Thomas-Wheeler I think he paid $50 for it. Was well worth it.
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My old boss had one of these http://www.rack-a-tiers.com/product/16/Thomas-Wheeler I think he paid $50 for it. Was well worth it.
We used to make the same thing with 3-2x4s, nails, a fender washer and some Romex. For the swivel on the top the Romex would go over the upright 2x4 and pierce a ten penny nail on a 1/4" fender washer. After the four sides had the Romex over the top piercing the nail and fender washer, the nail was bent into a hook. The hook was hung from the ceiling joist with a "j" nail or large staple.

Only time I used them was when we would go in with ten guys on a weekend. Everyone pulling their own 250' coils. Doing track work, I always used 1,000' reels. One site we had a van with the reels on racks in the back door. The van stayed on site. We would back up to a front window with the door open, and line the window with cardboard. For homeruns I would have four different Romex setups going at once.

I could also send different sizes to the basement through holes in the floor. I could rough the whole first floor from the basement, pulling right out of the van. I used rafter spacing as a cut guide for switches and outlets. I'm sure all these ideas are not unique.
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We used to make the same thing with 3-2x4s, nails, a fender washer and some Romex. For the swivel on the top the Romex would go over the upright 2x4 and pierce a ten penny nail on a 1/4" fender washer. After the four sides had the Romex over the top piercing the nail and fender washer, the nail was bent into a hook. The hook was hung from the ceiling joist with a "j" nail or large staple.

Only time I used them was when we would go in with ten guys on a weekend. Everyone pulling their own 250' coils. Doing track work, I always used 1,000' reels. One site we had a van with the reels on racks in the back door. The van stayed on site. We would back up to a front window with the door open, and line the window with cardboard. For homeruns I would have four different Romex setups going at once.

I could also send different sizes to the basement through holes in the floor. I could rough the whole first floor from the basement, pulling right out of the van. I used rafter spacing as a cut guide for switches and outlets. I'm sure all these ideas are not unique.
I just cant understand how to make decent money doing tract houses or any houses at all. I just spoke to a member on this site that can rope houses for $4.40 per sf. It must be a young mans game with a cadre of spidermans smashing out those houses.
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I just cant understand how to make decent money doing tract houses or any houses at all. I just spoke to a member on this site that can rope houses for $4.40 per sf. It must be a young mans game with a cadre of spidermans smashing out those houses.
With one semi-decent lead guy laying out, you can have 2-3 $100/day Mexicans doing all the work. All they do is drill and pull and hammer staples all day so they are super quick.

And when I say $100/day, that is up here. In Florida it would be $60.
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A lot of people, including me, got their start drilling holes and yanking wire. My first crew was all apprentices. The “foreman” was a second year.
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With one semi-decent lead guy laying out, you can have 2-3 $100/day Mexicans doing all the work. All they do is drill and pull and hammer staples all day so they are super quick.

And when I say $100/day, that is up here. In Florida it would be $60.
Nothing like that exists in my area. i'm not prejudice and I like Mexican people. It's just the way it is here.
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43,127 people. The racial makeup of the township was 98.82% White, 0.32% African American, 0.04% Native American, 0.39% Asian, 0.02% Pacific Islander, 0.05% from other races, and 0.36% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.41% of the population.
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Nothing like that exists in my area. i'm not prejudice and I like Mexican people. It's just the way it is here.
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My town and the surrounding suburban towns looks very similar, but they drive in from elsewhere.

It's not just Mexicans, it's other people who are often here illegally who don't speak English and do whatever they can to earn a living.
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