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Old 06-22-2010, 01:45 PM   #1
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Hey everyone, im starting at the end of this week doing primarily commercial and industrial work as a helper, and im going tool shopping today! Just wondering if i would need anything more than just a pair of linesmans, multi-bit screwdriver and a pair of strippers. Would cable cutters be a good investment at my stage of work? (rock bottom)
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Old 06-22-2010, 01:52 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum. No, to the cable cutters...and please, don't bring up coppertails.
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greenlee a solid company or should i just stick with ideal/klein?
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greenlee a solid company or should i just stick with ideal/klein?
Any of them are fine. Also look at Knipex.

Channel-lock pliers. Hacksaw. Tape measure. Torpedo level. Diagonals. Speedy drivers. Nutdrivers.
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I must be the only electrician who hates the 10 in 1.
I would rather have regular screw and nut drivers.
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I must be the only electrician who hates the 10 in 1.
I would rather have regular screw and nut drivers.
I'm in the same corner.
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Thanks guys, im sure you all have had your share of good/bad helpers, any important do & don't tips for me as a starting apprentice??? Or funny storys, I want to make a lasting impression and build good habbits as best as possible because my friend who ive done residential side work with referenced me and spoke highly of me and I would like to live up to that in the commercial field Thanks.
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........ any important do & don't tips for me as a starting apprentice???..........

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Show up on time.
Keep accurate records of the times and places you worked.
Keep accurate inventory records if this is your job.
Stock the truck after using something.
Maintain company tools.
Constantly improve your knowledge and mechanical skill.
Clean up your work area.
Minimize mistakes.
Use scrap material where possible.
No side jobs except for your mom.
Study if enrolled in apprenticeship.
Keep up with the latest NEC and local code amendments.
Don't borrow tools or anything from other workers without permission.
If you borrow something and break/lose it, buy them a new one.
Inform the shop of changes in your contact information.
Learn how to read and understand blueprints, job specs, etc.
Don't bring pets, children, or friends to the job.
Don't leave early without permission.
Don't miss days without a good reason.
Ask for time off well in advance.
Schedule vacation in writing. Keep a copy.
Advise job supervisor when you can not work overtime.
No working on live circuits if you're not qualified.
Don't expect much in the way of gratitude from anyone.
Be pleasant to customers regardless. Or leave.
Don't quote a price to anyone for anything.
Plan your work. Work your plan.
Evaluate your work each day on the way home.
Help load and unload the trucks bringing material.
Don't use the couple top steps of a ladder.
Do not climb up the ‘back side’ of a ladder.
No smoking. Period.
Do every job the best way you know how.
Observe the work of other trades.
Look over electrical work wherever you can.
If you’re not sure, ask.
Read trade publications and manufacturers literature.
Attend trade shows.
Check material against invoice before signing for it.
No swearing, vulgar language or off-color/racist remarks.
Thank your boss for your job now and then.
If you ever get a bonus, say thanks.
Drive safely with seat belt in place.
Store material in the truck so the load will not injure you.
Tie down all ladders and other objects on the roof.
Cover material to protect it from the elements.
Wear appropriate clothing for the elements.
Have a spare set of work clothes just in case.
Keep your first aid kit stocked and readily available.
Tools are not disposable. They are intended to be used more than once.
Know the location of the nearest emergency clinic and how to get there.
Update your first aid and CPR skills.
Notify the supervisor when damage is caused.
If you’re the last one out the door at the end, lock it.
Observe daily weather reports to anticipate hazardous changes.
Drink fluids to avoid heat stroke. Wear a hat in the sun.
Use tools only for the use they were intended.
Do not over-extend break and lunch periods.
Have several pair of dry gloves ready in winter.
If you find a lost tool, try your best to locate the proper owner.
Keep your job car in good working order.
Keep your hand tools in good working order.
No vulgar or offensive clothing (t-shirts, hats, etc.)
Be truthful when responding to supervisors.
Try to get a variety of work experience.
Volunteer for a difficult job now and then.
Go along to get along.
Put everything back where you got it.
The floor is not your personal garbage can.
Neither is the top of drop-ceiling tiles.
Care for your injuries. Stay healthy.
Own up and admit to your mistakes.
Don't take chances on ladders or scaffolding.
Don't take chances with live power.
Build up a backup set of hand tools for the day when yours are taken or lost.
Keep all company material and tools secure.
Do not use unsafe equipment. Report it immediately.
Replace hacksaw blade as often as needed.
Replace utility knife blade as often as needed.
Don’t be afraid to report theft /abuse / illegal activity.
Don't wear jewelry.
Don't antagonize or fight with other workers. Walk away.
Help other workers as needed.
Keep the radio volume at a reasonable level, if a radio is allowed.
Alcohol and drugs are absolutely forbidden.
Wear safety glasses and ear protection as appropriate.
Check your shoes/boots before entering the finished area of a building.
Be cautious working on new buildings during lightning storms.
When lifting, observe proper back position.
If something is too heavy for you ask for help.
Wear proper footgear to protect ankles from uneven ground.
Wear hard sole shoes where sharp objects like nails are present.
Wear a hard hat as required or where sensible.
Maintain GFCI in good working order.
Return phone calls promptly.
Use all safety equipment when required to.
Your cell phone is no excuse for not working!
Put on a belt and pull up your pants to your waist!
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Talk about time on their hands. But, I agree. Good hints.
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Talk about time on their hands. But, I agree. Good hints.
You think I just typed that all out? Heck no...... copy & paste!
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Welcome to the forum. Did the company that you are going to work for not provide you with a tool list?
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I must be the only electrician who hates the 10 in 1.
I would rather have regular screw and nut drivers.
I agree, the only thing worse than those things are the people that use them.

I told my helper to lose the ten in one, Then a while later I asked him to hand me "my" flat head and he handed me his ten in one, I was tightening a 2" locknut. I ruined his screwdriver and taught him what I thought was a valuable lesson.




My standard advice,

Loose the cell phone, tell your friends to not call you during the day, always pickup ketchup, straws and napkins, extra cream and sugar. And for gods sakes pull up your pants.
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