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Old 01-09-2020, 09:12 AM   #1
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Junction boxes and troughs with factory KO’s. They are never in the correct spot or size and when you punch your holes the box looks like mike Tyson did it.

Concentric Factory KO’s. Really?

Staggered OWC clips on gem boxes.

Pre-fab ground tails.

Ground clips

Ideal wire-nuts

10/24 threading on WP boxes and the unthreaded ground.


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Old 01-09-2020, 09:27 AM   #2
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I’ll never understand why outdoor round boxes use a completely different screw. So many otherwise experienced electrician don’t know this and strip it out.
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Junction boxes and troughs with factory KO’s. They are never in the correct spot or size and when you punch your holes the box looks like mike Tyson did it.

Concentric Factory KO’s. Really?

Staggered OWC clips on gem boxes.

Pre-fab ground tails.

Ground clips

Ideal wire-nuts

10/24 threading on WP boxes and the unthreaded ground.
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I’ll never understand why outdoor round boxes use a completely different screw. So many otherwise experienced electrician don’t know this and strip it out.
I just dealt with this at my inlaws but he had already stripped them out. Good to know for the next time I install one sometime in the next 10 years.

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Junction boxes and troughs with factory KO’s. They are never in the correct spot or size and when you punch your holes the box looks like mike Tyson did it.

Concentric Factory KO’s. Really?
Hate them on troughs.

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Staggered OWC clips on gem boxes.
Don't care.

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Pre-fab ground tails.
Never use them. Might have a place in production work.

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Ground clips
Hate them.

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Ideal wire-nuts
Love them. Tan Twister is almost all I use.

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10/24 threading on WP boxes and the unthreaded ground.
I hate them. I don't understand why they went with that thread instead of 10-32. I have largely stopped using metal WP boxes.

I hate GE panels and breakers made since about 1995.
Handy boxes.
Track lights.
Boxes without the raised ground screw hole.
Reducing washers sold individually.
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Factory KO’s come in two varieties:

1) The kind you can push out with your thumb
2) The kind that won’t budge even with a sledge hammer and explosives

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What’s wrong with Ideal?
It’s not 3M.
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It’s not 3M.
I don’t even think we can buy 3M up here. Ignorance is bliss .
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Tan Twisters are unbeatable.
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I hate them. I don't understand why they went with that thread instead of 10-32. I have largely stopped using metal WP boxes.
What size/thread do the plastic round boxes use? I barely use them so I don't remember.

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I don’t even think we can buy 3M up here. Ignorance is bliss .
3M red/yellows, blue/oranges, and blue/grays are by far the best wirenuts out there and all you will ever need.
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3M red/yellows, blue/oranges, and blue/grays are by far the best wirenuts out there and all you will ever need.
You only say that cause you haven't tried a REAL Marrette
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You only say that cause you haven't tried a REAL Marrette
Marrettes suck. Really bad.
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Hate these in red and yellow. I prefer 3M Buchanan in red and yellow


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Hate them on troughs.







Don't care.







Never use them. Might have a place in production work.







Hate them.







Love them. Tan Twister is almost all I use.







I hate them. I don't understand why they went with that thread instead of 10-32. I have largely stopped using metal WP boxes.



I hate GE panels and breakers made since about 1995.

Handy boxes.

Track lights.

Boxes without the raised ground screw hole.

Reducing washers sold individually.
I think they went 10-24 for hanging fans.
I'm guessing because I also don't get it.


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I thought the only reason they still made them, was for the Chicago guys. When roughing in with EMT, you just spin a wirenut on the conductors and push it through the pipe. Maybe I’m wrong, but I thought that was the purpose. I kept a few reds in my apron on an all conduit job. I don’t know if it sped anything up. It was all solid wires, so just bending the wires over also did the trick.

Maybe a Chicago guy could elaborate?
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10-24 screws in round FS boxes? Maybe easier to get out when corroded?
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Only arbor I like for 1/2”-1” hole saws


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I hate neat carts and shiny holesaws!
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