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Old 02-03-2014, 07:04 PM   #1
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Anyone ever had a problem with an inspector running an insulated ground to the water main in a house through wood studs?

Drywalled ceiling.
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Old 02-03-2014, 07:07 PM   #2
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Never done it in a house but I have run the ground through the wood studs and behind the drywall on commercial construction. Never been an issue.
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Never run an insulated ground, just bare, but regardless, never had a problem.
What's the suspector questioning?
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Heat, almost like a Romex above at bar ceiling - like its not plenum rated. But the ceiling isn't an air duct or anything.
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Is he looking for FT6 rating or what?
if its a house and you are not running inside the cold air joist lined plenum, whats the problem?
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Jesus Christ. Some inspectors.
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Is he looking for FT6 rating or what? if its a house and you are not running inside the cold air joist lined plenum, whats the problem?
Exactly.
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Exactly.
Here in MB, rule 12-010 has been relaxed to allow residential wiring to cross thru a plenum if it is constructed of combustible material, ie a joist lined plenum. Your guy is an idiot
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Is it coming in contact with the heat runs for duct work?
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Here in MB, rule 12-010 has been relaxed to allow residential wiring to cross thru a plenum if it is constructed of combustible material, ie a joist lined plenum. Your guy is an idiot
Ok I'll call him an idiot tomorrow and hopefully everything goes smoothly.
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Is it coming in contact with the heat runs for duct work?
No. And if it was I would have separation/insulation in between as if it were a Romex.
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Ok I'll call him an idiot tomorrow and hopefully everything goes smoothly.
Let us know how well that turns out. rotf
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Anyone ever had a problem with an inspector running an insulated ground to the water main in a house through wood studs?

Drywalled ceiling.
No I have not, but I know exactly where this is going. Use bare and you won't have any issues where it is run. Might be less expensive also.

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Most insulated wires do not have a flame spread rating and must be installed in a raceway if in a plenum or bare.
For buildings of combustible construction wires must be at least FT-1 with telephone and data wiring at least FT-4 if in a plenum.

non combustible buildings the asme is FT-4 and FT-6 for the data and tel.

any insulated wire must have at least FT-1 for combustible construction, in a raceway of at least ft-4 or metal, or bare. Note that I do not think that PVC or ENT raceways are FT-1 but FT-4
That Most EI probably do not catch the insulated ground wire I would say this inspector is looking pretty close.
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Most insulated ground that I have used has been FT1 rated. Even on jobs that speced FT4
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Anyone ever had a problem with an inspector running an insulated ground to the water main in a house through wood studs?

Drywalled ceiling.
Time to get your knife out and make all visible insulation disappear.
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