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Old 06-24-2019, 09:14 PM   #1
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2015 CEC 10-208 (1) (a) , (b)
says you need a grounding electrode at each building

But I don’t see where or if that is in the case in 2018 CEC.


And a question regarding bond screws in sub-panels:
Is 10-210 (a), (d) from 2018 CEC the definitive rules that the bond screw must always be removed from the Sub-panel neutral terminal?

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I don't have code book with me to cite rule, but ground must be brought to new building from main service.

Bond screw rule is unchanged.

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2015 CEC 10-208 (1) (a) , (b)

says you need a grounding electrode at each building



But I don’t see where or if that is in the case in 2018 CEC.





And a question regarding bond screws in sub-panels:

Is 10-210 (a), (d) from 2018 CEC the definitive rules that the bond screw must always be removed from the Sub-panel neutral terminal?



Thanks


The old code didn’t say you needed an electrode at each building, you had the choice to either run a bond with the feed or establish a new ground at the second building.

Now (2018 code) you only have one choice. you must run a bond with the feed to separate buildings that are fed from the same service and yes, you must remove the bonding screw at sub panels


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The old code didn’t say you needed an electrode at each building, you had the choice to either run a bond with the feed or establish a new ground at the second building.

Now (2018 code) you only have one choice. you must run a bond with the feed to separate buildings that are fed from the same service and yes, you must remove the bonding screw at sub panels

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So the electrode would just be redundant if the bond is run from main anyway? Or it provided additional safety?
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So the electrode would just be redundant if the bond is run from main anyway? Or it provided additional safety?


No the new code says you can not install another ground rod at a separate building. You must run a bond only. There can only be one ground, at the service


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Here is the new 2018 code.

10-210 Grounding connections for solidly grounded ac systems supplied by the supply authority
The grounded conductor of a solidly grounded ac system supplied by the supply authority shall
a) be connected to a grounding conductor at one point only at the consumer’s service;
b) have a minimum size as specified
i) for a bonding conductor; and
ii) for a neutral conductor when the grounded conductor also serves as a neutral;
c) be connected to the equipment bonding terminal by a system bonding jumper; and
d) have no other connection to the non-current-carrying conductive parts of electrical equipment on the supply side or the load side of the grounding connection.
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