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Old 09-23-2015, 01:40 PM   #21
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I'm in Toronto. I've tried everything. I've stood outside electrical suppliers at 6am handing out my resume, I've worked for free for a week to prove myself.

I am highly capable. I've got my own tools/vehicle. I don't know what the problem is. Bad luck?
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Old 09-23-2015, 04:16 PM   #22
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I'm in Toronto. I've tried everything. I've stood outside electrical suppliers at 6am handing out my resume, I've worked for free for a week to prove myself.

I am highly capable. I've got my own tools/vehicle. I don't know what the problem is. Bad luck?
Wow, that's rather strange. It sounds like they don't like green guys in TO. I'm in Barrie and have helped a couple of guys get their foot in the door. One suggestion would be to try and get in with an electrical company as a laborer. It's crappy work, but if you work hard, have a good attitude and learn fast, it usually pays off. I had a guy on my job a few years ago who came in with four guys from labor ready. At the end of the day, he was the only guy left. Three months later I had the boss sign him up as an apprentice.
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I took a look at your resume. It could be cleaned up a bit for "flow", but really it should be fine. I didn't see anything on it that should be a red flag keeping you from getting responses.

I guess keep knocking on doors. Good luck.
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I'm trying hard to become an apprentice and doing everything I can, I'm enrolling into pre apprenticeship training and in the mean time applying to any job postings cold calling places and showing up to places and dropping off resumes.

I've also been taking advantage of some free online training/educational resources such as youtube and others my question is this what topics am I best off to study which will best prepare me? I want to study up on topics which will best help.

Also if anyone has any other advice or reccomend any further steps I should be taken I'd greatly appreciate it.

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Keep your resume short and include things that would be pertinent to the trade.

In this day, if you have first aid you should at least get a phone call.
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Old 09-24-2015, 12:35 AM   #25
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I've finished my pre apprenticeship with a 3.8 GPA, 2 years ago. And still looking for a company to hire me. I must of sent out over 500 applications with no reply.

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Though I haven't hired in the electrical field, I have close to 10 yrs. experience hiring people. My only advice would be to keep it to 1 page.

Don't cram everything to make it into 1 page.

You may think some things are important to include, but it may not relate to the field.

This may seem difficult, but remember that the person looking at all the resumes may be knee-deep in them.

Don't repeat yourself.

Forget cover letters unless targeting larger companies with an HR department.

Say as much as you can in as few words as possible - brevity is key.

Use bold and/or highlighting font to organize sections/heading/etc.

Show your resume to someone in an HR/hiring position for feedback (doesn't have to be in the electrical field).

What you want, ultimately, is a job.
- the resume gets you noticed/phone call
- the phone call gets you the interview
- the interview gives you the time to fill in the blanks and sell yourself.
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I would recommend taking a pre-apprenticeship course. Here in BC, They are quite common. It gives you your first year qualification (minus the hours) and they will generally place you with a company to work with during the pre-apprenticeship program, with a possibility of getting hired on with the company if you're any good and they're in need of apprentices.
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Sask here,

Don't do pre employment. Your school hours count towards your apprenticeship hours and puts you at a higher pay grade than a green guy who didn't go to school. However, a pre em graduate and a green guy have both never spent a day in the field so some companies don't want to pay you extra when your experience level is no different than a guy they pulled off the street.
Find a company who does larger sites (schools, hospitals). Often when it comes time to put in hundreds of switches and receptacles, the company will hire guys off the street for bare bones pay to do the simple work, then lay most of them off. If you can get on doing monkey work, at least your foot is in the door and maybe you can prove yourself capable enough to not be let go later.
And don't get excited and do something dumb like buy a new truck because "now you're a tradesman". Your job security is low your 1st and 4th year. 1st because you're new and they're feeling you out, 4th because they're monitoring your skill level to see if you're worth a 30% increase in pay when you become a journeyman.
Have no life for only 4 years, focus on your job, and you're set from there.
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Old 11-28-2015, 07:27 PM   #28
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Sask here,

Don't do pre employment. Your school hours count towards your apprenticeship hours and puts you at a higher pay grade than a green guy who didn't go to school. However, a pre em graduate and a green guy have both never spent a day in the field so some companies don't want to pay you extra when your experience level is no different than a guy they pulled off the street.
Find a company who does larger sites (schools, hospitals). Often when it comes time to put in hundreds of switches and receptacles, the company will hire guys off the street for bare bones pay to do the simple work, then lay most of them off. If you can get on doing monkey work, at least your foot is in the door and maybe you can prove yourself capable enough to not be let go later.
And don't get excited and do something dumb like buy a new truck because "now you're a tradesman". Your job security is low your 1st and 4th year. 1st because you're new and they're feeling you out, 4th because they're monitoring your skill level to see if you're worth a 30% increase in pay when you become a journeyman.
Have no life for only 4 years, focus on your job, and you're set from there.
Great advice, hope it gets read. thread is a month old.
I've made the same mistake many times. Another mistake I make is not paying attention to what page I'm on in the thread. So I post something brilliant and it has nothing to do with where the thread has gone. This is just a heads up from one Canuck to another.
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We don't pay our Pre-apprenticeship guys any more than a green guy until after 6 months working with us here in Northern BC.
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Yeah I don't think any pre app's care about being paid a few bucks more an hour, would gladly work for minimum wage just for a chance to prove myself. I know my brother started as a term 2 instead of 1 in the IBEW but I wouldn't expect a private company to do that also. Few greenish guys I know work for 11-12 an hour wiring up 5 million dollar homes just to get some hours and experience.
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Old 12-20-2015, 02:45 AM   #31
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This is how you apply to the IBEW in the Toronto area (although our local has now merged with Barrie and Oshawa). Check this page weekly starting in February or March.

http://www.electricalapprenticeship....struction.html

Oh, and anyone who tells you there is a "shortage" of workers in a field is full of **** and has an agenda. When I applied to the JAC over 10 years ago around 600 people applied that intake and 120 got accepted. Ask anyone who went into law or teaching in Ontario in the last 10 years because of the supposed "shortage" how easy it was to find work after they graduated. You can safely take what the government and media tell you and assume 90% of it is the complete opposite of the truth and it will serve you well in life.

If you're not able to get an apprenticeship in the trade you prefer, consider another trade or at least find a construction job so you have something construction related to put on your resume. Another job you can try to get in the meantime is at an electrical wholesaler (eg. Nedco), you will learn the materials of the trade and you can talk to lots of electrical contractors.

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This is how you apply to the IBEW in the Toronto area (although our local has now merged with Barrie and Oshawa). Check this page weekly starting in February or March.

http://www.electricalapprenticeship....struction.html

Oh, and anyone who tells you there is a "shortage" of workers in a field is full of **** and has an agenda. When I applied to the JAC over 10 years ago around 600 people applied that intake and 120 got accepted. Ask anyone who went into law or teaching in Ontario in the last 10 years because of the supposed "shortage" how easy it was to find work after they graduated. You can safely take what the government and media tell you and assume 90% of it is the complete opposite of the truth and it will serve you well in life.

If you're not able to get an apprenticeship in the trade you prefer, consider another trade or at least find a construction job so you have something construction related to put on your resume. Another job you can try to get in the meantime is at an electrical wholesaler (eg. Nedco), you will learn the materials of the trade and you can talk to lots of electrical contractors.
The worker shortage might affect any trade EXCEPT the electrical one. There's always going to be work, but the industry is SATURATED with electricians. You only need to look up your town's yellow pages to realize that, and that's just the listed companies. The big commercial ones with 100's of guys employed aren't even usually on the YP.

That's not meant to make anyone give up or anything, but simply an explanation why finding an apprenticeship can be so hard. It took me 4 years to land one, and it wasn't until I'd spent those 4 years doing datacom and fire alarm/security/access control and learned as many skills as possibly without getting an actual apprenticeship that I did get one.
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I have been in the electrical industry for over 45 years and can honestly say...keep away from the trades. Get involved in the financial industry, it is lots cleaner, and you make more money without working outside up north in the winter.
I do tip my hat to the women I have seen entering the trade.
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Greetings all,

Just joined ET today, been reading the threads, looks like a great community of which to be a part.

Wanted to post my approach to landing an apprenticeship, a bit different from what Ive seen on here so far.

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After 2-3 months of answering ads and getting no response, I chose to take a different approach. I posted my own ad on Kijiji, on a Wednesday.

It worked.

Got 2 answers within 24 hours, which led to a phone interview on Friday, I started the following Monday, and 6 months later was signed up as an apprentice by this same small electrical company.

Keep in mind I had ZERO electrical experience, but I did have reno experience, some network experience, a reliable car, tools, a good attitude, and a willingness to learn the trade.

2.5 years later Im still there, good fit for now, nice work environment commercial, we work mostly in office buildings, all indoor work, almost always days, M-F, with some OT thrown in when were busy.

I visited IBEW local on a day off, to see what its about, not sure its a fit for me, but its an option, if I decide to go that route at some point.

Hope that helps.

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Greetings all,

Just joined ET today, been reading the threads, looks like a great community of which to be a part.

Wanted to post my approach to landing an apprenticeship, a bit different from what Ive seen on here so far.

Think Different
After 2-3 months of answering ads and getting no response, I chose to take a different approach. I posted my own ad on Kijiji, on a Wednesday.

It worked.

Got 2 answers within 24 hours, which led to a phone interview on Friday, I started the following Monday, and 6 months later was signed up as an apprentice by this same small electrical company.

Keep in mind I had ZERO electrical experience, but I did have reno experience, some network experience, a reliable car, tools, a good attitude, and a willingness to learn the trade.

2.5 years later Im still there, good fit for now, nice work environment commercial, we work mostly in office buildings, all indoor work, almost always days, M-F, with some OT thrown in when were busy.

I visited IBEW local on a day off, to see what its about, not sure its a fit for me, but its an option, if I decide to go that route at some point.

Hope that helps.

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Greetings all,

Just joined ET today, been reading the threads, looks like a great community of which to be a part.

Wanted to post my approach to landing an apprenticeship, a bit different from what Ive seen on here so far.

Think Different
After 2-3 months of answering ads and getting no response, I chose to take a different approach. I posted my own ad on Kijiji, on a Wednesday.

It worked.

Got 2 answers within 24 hours, which led to a phone interview on Friday, I started the following Monday, and 6 months later was signed up as an apprentice by this same small electrical company.

Keep in mind I had ZERO electrical experience, but I did have reno experience, some network experience, a reliable car, tools, a good attitude, and a willingness to learn the trade.

2.5 years later Im still there, good fit for now, nice work environment commercial, we work mostly in office buildings, all indoor work, almost always days, M-F, with some OT thrown in when were busy.

I visited IBEW local on a day off, to see what its about, not sure its a fit for me, but its an option, if I decide to go that route at some point.

Hope that helps.

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I'm in Toronto. I've tried everything. I've stood outside electrical suppliers at 6am handing out my resume, I've worked for free for a week to prove myself.

I am highly capable. I've got my own tools/vehicle. I don't know what the problem is. Bad luck?
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Thanks for the informative post - Ontario resident here, looking to start an electrical apprenticeship within the next few months (309a)

Currently in my 5th month of pre-apprenticeship training (4 months network cabling, 4 months electrical) and I'm quite excited to get this ball rolling soon.

I'd have to say, the biggest eye opener for me has been the potential dangers in this particular trade. Might just be an age thing for me (30's now so I've become a little more cautious), but I never knew how dangerous electricity can actually be, particularly in residential applications.

I've been picking at the brains of journeypersons, and as knowledgeable as they are, they still talk about how they've ended up in hospitals from shock at some point in their careers.

Anyways, I can only hope my future employers will know the deal and shed me some insight.
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