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Old 08-15-2019, 07:05 PM   #1
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I live up north ny/nj area were the utility companies pseng ,con Edison ,Orange n rockland etc hire directly from the ibew njact neat apprenticeship programs and the wrk is done directly through the utility companies .

I recently found out that down south
The utility companies can sub out the wrk to pri contractors that are non union and do not have to have the men go through apprenticeship programs , which can lead to the men not being trained properly , with low wages and no retirement.

I looked up some articles on the lineman site and a big name came up pike electric seems like my suspicions were right on .

A lot of the men that wrk for this companie complain of low wages unsafe conditions etc.

They are also the only show in town and they know it , so the men cannot speak up and have to tolerate the poor wrking conditions .

It was just shocking to me suddenly I live up north I have never seen any type of line wrk being done by a pri contractor exp non union and always was under the impression that this applied to most of the states.
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Old 08-15-2019, 07:10 PM   #2
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We have several line work companies locally that support the utilities in New England and I can't speak to whether they are union or non union.
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Interesting I thought New England would be similarly to nj/ ny but I guess not
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Pike showed up in the FPL service area the day after Hurricane Charley (2004) and never left.

MasTech has been around forever. They used to be Burnip & Sims out of Lithonia, GA. After Jose Mas bought the company the HQ moved to Miami.

They both do lots of contract work for FPL as do others (including some of our customers).

FPL covers 51% of the state of Florida. They were bought out by NextEra Energy maybe 10+ years ago.
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I’ve used Mastec and Pike. Workmanship and quality is nearly the same with both. I’ve never had a complaint or issue. Mastec is more corporate attitude. It’s been getting steadily worse. Pike is different. Each foreman can almost run their crew independently so it depends on the foreman. It’s either the best or worst company to linemen but in general Pike treats their people MUCH better than others in the Carolinas area. Both know their stuff. Union does not even apply here. It’s a right to work state. To the point where they are exempt across the board from state licensing, inspections, PEs, etc. Duke has that much influence. Duke is iron fisted about procedures and both tow the line.



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There are many private companies that do contract linework in NJ and NY. Just read the name on the trucks out of the roads.
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There are many private companies that do contract linework in NJ and NY. Just read the name on the trucks out of the roads.
I know a few that do some high voltage work that are pri contractors help like help build sub stations ,running high tension high voltage cable .but the contractors that I see are always union .

But as far as everyday line work I always see the utility companies doing the wrk .

I will keep my eye out from now on but I really havnt seen pri contractors in bucket trucks up on the poles . Every service drop , and hook up its always been utility guys doing the wrk that I’ve seen .
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I know a few that do some high voltage work that are pri contractors help like help build sub stations ,running high tension high voltage cable .but the contractors that I see are always union .

But as far as everyday line work I always see the utility companies doing the wrk .

I will keep my eye out from now on but I really havnt seen pri contractors in bucket trucks up on the poles . Every service drop , and hook up its always been utility guys doing the wrk that I’ve seen .

A service drop, disconnect, reconnect is normally done in house by a trouble man/crew.

Maintenance is done by a service crew.

Most often reconstruction is contractors.

Relative of mine was President at an IBEW JCP&L local for a very long time.
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I know a few that do some high voltage work that are pri contractors help like help build sub stations ,running high tension high voltage cable .but the contractors that I see are always union .

But as far as everyday line work I always see the utility companies doing the wrk .

I will keep my eye out from now on but I really havnt seen pri contractors in bucket trucks up on the poles . Every service drop , and hook up its always been utility guys doing the wrk that I’️ve seen .

A service drop, disconnect, reconnect is normally done in house by a trouble man/crew.

Maintenance is done by a service crew.

Most often reconstruction is contractors.

Relative of mine was President at an IBEW JCP&L local for a very long time.
very interesting ok
Cool good to know

But deff up north all linework I have seen has been done through the ibew .
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Here in central and northern CA, PG&E is so back-logged that I've seen Henkels/McCoy...Par Electric...Contra Costa and others doing work for them.And all are IBEW contracted companys.
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Here in central and northern CA, PG&E is so back-logged that I've seen Henkels/McCoy...Par Electric...Contra Costa and others doing work for them.And all are IBEW contracted companys.
I watched a lot of videos on how the workers at ph&e. Unionized and the struggles they went through it was preety interesting .

Wow ok I guess it’s more normal to see contractors doing linework than I thought .

Glad to see in Cali the utility companies pull from the hall when dealing with the pri contractors .

I was reading up on pike electrcial I found some really disturbing things on those guys . Hope it’s not all true
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Thanks for the Insight..
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