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Old 03-28-2020, 11:01 AM   #1
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Default Controls electrician needed

I may have a need for a controls electrician in the SCADA department.

After the COVID 19 quarantine is over we may be looking for someone to join our SCADA department.

PLC and HMI experience is a must.
Electrical troubleshooting is a must.
Process control is a must.
Basic panel building and pipe work preferred.

We are located between Denver and Colorado Springs CO.

PM me if interested and I will let you know when we run an ad.

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Old 03-28-2020, 11:48 AM   #2
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Damn, If I was only 30yrs younger..
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That sounds perfect but I don't think the wife wants to move and take all the grandkids with us.
Great opportunity for the right person .

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Here is a job listing, Great opportunity we are doing a major upgrade.

https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/castlerock
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Keep us posted. I am curious to how many applicants you get that actually have these qualifications.
From what I hear around here, you will have a hard time. I hope you get the right guy.
Just keep in kind you may have to train. Not green horn training, but train the right guy that may not fit the job exactly.

I can remember when I was much younger. I learned what I know on the job. And in many some cases I inflated my knowledge and experience.
It was the only way to get my foot in the door.
I am not in any way encouraging guys to follow my path or to be untruthful. But I was thirsty for knowledge and would get that knowledge any way I could.

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Damn my wife keeps saying that!
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Good luck.
That, at least around here, is a foreign concept. I have missed a couple jobs because I am not an expert on PLC's but have a beginner knowledge and honestly told them so. With a little help from a mentor I told them, I'm pretty sure I could get decent in short order. Employers around here are loath to pay for training because the employee in there mind will jump ship or a few dollars more. Treat people like a flight risk and they won't disappoint you.
Sorry Cowboy for the hijack, I had to rant, I apologize.
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That, at least around here, is a foreign concept. I have missed a couple jobs because I am not an expert on PLC's but have a beginner knowledge and honestly told them so. With a little help from a mentor I told them, I'm pretty sure I could get decent in short order. Employers around here are loath to pay for training because the employee in there mind will jump ship or a few dollars more. Treat people like a flight risk and they won't disappoint you.
Sorry Cowboy for the hijack, I had to rant, I apologize.
Reminds of a true story.
When I got laid off from the railroad, I took a construction job. EMT job.
When I met with the super on the job site he asked how good I was on pipe bending. I told him I was good and knew how to bend pipe.
I had never bent a stick in my life.

He put me in an open apt with metal studs all up, waiting on boxes and pipe.
I stood there for awhile and then proceeded to ruin several sticks and tossed them out the window to a scrap pile below.
In the next apt was another guy bending the heck out of it.
He came over and saw I was over my head and proceeded to help me.

He showed me how he made all repetitive bends on the ground before popping the first hole. He had all the bends most ready to be put in, cut and coupling or connector. Each apt was exactly the same, so it was very easy for him. Very fast as well.

He spent about 30 minutes with me and he was right there all day for questions.
By that afternoon I had it. Had it figured out for these apt's. I did not get much done that day though.
When the super came over to check on me, he asked how come so slow.
I told him I was sick and that I would be much better the next day.

Worked on that job for a few months and learned how to mount the boxes and throw EMT into walls very fast.
The floor was laid out so that made it easier too.

I got lucky and got the job. In fact I was considered one of the better guys on that job.
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Keep us posted. I am curious to how many applicants you get that actually have these qualifications.
From what I hear around here, you will have a hard time. I hope you get the right guy.
Just keep in kind you may have to train. Not green horn training, but train the right guy that may not fit the job exactly.

I can remember when I was much younger. I learned what I know on the job. And in many some cases I inflated my knowledge and experience.
It was the only way to get my foot in the door.
I am not in any way encouraging guys to follow my path or to be untruthful. But I was thirsty for knowledge and would get that knowledge any way I could.

Good luck.
Its not going to be easy to train someone on this type of work.

You need a geek that's willing to get there hands dirty and excepts the job as a challenge. By the time you train someone in a certain type of controller or sensor that brand is obsolete.
Find a person that's willing to read the manual and is a self starter as they will train themselves. Finding that needle in a haystack of applications that are attracted to the pay is the real problem.

I like to ask what online forums people belong to.
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That looks like a great place. I like the idea of the water reutilization plan you have getting started.
Someone will get lucky having that job.
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Hey cowboy. Aren't you a transplant from back east? I seem to remember you posting a thread you were relocating to Colorado and had many reservations about it. I guess all is well?
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Hey cowboy. Aren't you a transplant from back east? I seem to remember you posting a thread you were relocating to Colorado and had many reservations about it. I guess all is well?
Yea from back East. Never worried about work, but did not think I would go from low man to top man in a year.
I had a problem finding my replacement back East, now I can’t find anyone out here.

Young ones you need to learn electrical controls.
This field is not going away it needs good workers


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Here is a job listing again, going to close soon. We haven't found anyone yet, we will repost in a few months but if you fit the bill PM me.
https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/castlerock
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Listing is closed for now will repost again after a waiting time. You can still PM if interested
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Keep us posted. I am curious to how many applicants you get that actually have these qualifications.
From what I hear around here, you will have a hard time. I hope you get the right guy.
Just keep in kind you may have to train. Not green horn training, but train the right guy that may not fit the job exactly.
Good luck.
@John Valdes we ran the ad two times for two weeks each time.
We got
1 laid off oil worker
2 teachers
2 data analysts
2 completely off base.
1 nanny
2 people too far away to handle call ins.

Yes I will train the right person if they show potential.

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@John Valdes we ran the ad two times for two weeks each time.
We got
1 laid off oil worker
2 teachers
2 data analysts
2 completely off base.
1 nanny
2 people too far away to handle call ins.

Yes I will train the right person if they show potential.

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Wow. I didn't expect it to be that bad? Here you would have at least electrical guys applying. Its amazing that not one with the exception of the last two (you did not say what they were) were not even close to what you need.
I expected someone with industrial electrical experience to be the guy or gal you may want to train.
I am going to go back and look at the ad again. Will the link still work?
Maybe I can give some insight as to why you are generating applicants that have no business applying to start with.
There has to be a reason?

Maybe some of the other guys should also look it over and provide feedback.

The job is removed from the link.. Can you send or post it without any contact information? Might be a good idea to allow us to have a look it again.

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Yes I will get the job description. Being government work it is hard to change something that is in a job description. My complaint is the job title description is SCADA analyst, but they renamed our group so we could fit in the next pay grade.
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Yes I will get the job description. Being government work it is hard to change something that is in a job description. My complaint is the job title description is SCADA analyst, but they renamed our group so we could fit in the next pay grade.
I have a gov job so im not going to tell you my job title as its way above whats expected in the job.

I was asked by people that worked there to apply and 3 times i backed out of the interview. Eventually the Scada senior specialist (nice title) called me and asked for a meet and great at one of the sites "no strings attached".

We spoke for a while and i agreed to another interview. Then 2 days before they wanted copy's of training documents and licences. I backed out again as they had no clue what they wanted or needed.

Finally the scada tech put his foot down and vouched for me and explained that its taken 3 years to find someone like me so its time to act.

During the interview i had to agree to any training or certificates they deemed appropriate or any training i fell would be helpful for my job (they pay for everything including time, travel, hotels, classes).

Seemed like a good deal so im now looking forwards to getting my class A driving licence (no idea why i need one but what the hell its free training).
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