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Old 05-18-2020, 04:53 PM   #101
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My favorite panel brand is any brand fuse panel. My 2nd favorite is Federal Pacific. My 3rd favorite is Zinsco. All of the above have made me more money then any other panel
Why did you leave out the Wadsworth breaker panel?
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Old 05-18-2020, 05:00 PM   #102
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Apparently, Homeline equipment is competitively-priced when ordered in-bulk, which is why you'll often see them in apartments and condominiums.

Yeah, some of the ones we have installed were ordered bulk (insert kits for amalgamated fuse panels)... we didn't order them, we only helped install them (we worked as a subcontractor for another EC)

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Same here. How many have you seen locally? Also, how available the breakers? One guy I worked for insisted on using a BR breaker instead of sourcing a compatible two-pole 30 from GE...
I have seen maybe 5 GE panels in the houses I have worked in. Breakers are plentiful here. There's at least 3 different suppliers that carry the breakers.

I don't like GE panels because of their weird spacesaver breaker design.... wanna add a 1p 15a breaker? Well you need a panel filler...

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Old 05-18-2020, 05:55 PM   #103
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Why did you leave out the Wadsworth breaker panel?
While the Wadsworth panel is really dated, they were solidly built and are still in use in several plants I work on. Breakers are still available from a local vendor at a price that is reasonable considering the age and scarcity of them.
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Why did you leave out the Wadsworth breaker panel?
Other than their age, there have been no reliability problems or recalls having to do with those panels or breakers. People get their homeowners insurance cancelled over fuse panels.
Fuse panels are generally safe when they are not tampered with. However people tend to screw oversized fuses, or pennies in which makes them unsafe.
Both Zinsco and FPE had problems with the breakers and the bus bars. They both are a fire hazard. Any customer with one of those, I suggest they sell their wife and mortgage the cat and knock off a convenience store if necessary to get those panels replaced. Under the right set of circumstances, they could lose their house in a fire due to one of those defective panels.
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FPE's are literal fire starters, I changed one last winter that was actually melting down and got so hot it charred the plywood backboard. The lineman cut the service drop at the pole before the house burned down, he was there already to investigate loss of power to the house and discovered the FPE main breaker in meltdown mode.
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i have seen maybe 5 ge panels in the houses i have worked in. Breakers are plentiful here. There's at least 3 different suppliers that carry the breakers.

I don't like ge panels because of their weird spacesaver breaker design.... Wanna add a 1p 15a breaker? Well you need a panel filler...
Wow, out here I've only ever seen two (in homes). Seeing 347V GE panels in older commercial buildings isn't too uncommon, though. City Electric (the one supply-house in-town which sells their equipment) doesn't appear to keep any regular stock on the shelves.

Kevin, you aren't the only one who hates those spacesavers!
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That's the one I forgot to mention... I'd like to try one out. I like that the neutrals can be landed during the rough in... I'd only use a Leviton panel for new construction though.

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I have seen the Leviton Ad’s, but no one around here is stocking them - yet. Where are you finding yours, Graybar?
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I have seen the Leviton Ad’s, but no one around here is stocking them - yet. Where are you finding yours, Graybar?
Futurplus.

I have some friends that works there... they were supposed to get me pricing on a tub, the hub kit, and an assortment of breakers. They have one hanging on their wall. Next time I'm there I'll take a photo.

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Futurplus.

I have some friends that works there... they were supposed to get me pricing on a tub, the hub kit, and an assortment of breakers. They have one hanging on their wall. Next time I'm there I'll take a photo.

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6 month after it's unveiling, I wonder if it will ever become commonplace?
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Here's a couple Leviton unboxing videos. Personally, I'm still unconvinced...


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Am I the only one Gorilla taping pennies into empty Corn Flakes boxes and calling it good?
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Yeah, some of the ones we have installed were ordered bulk (insert kits for amalgamated fuse panels)... we didn't order them, we only helped install them (we worked as a subcontractor for another EC)


I have seen maybe 5 GE panels in the houses I have worked in. Breakers are plentiful here. There's at least 3 different suppliers that carry the breakers.

I don't like GE panels because of their weird spacesaver breaker design.... wanna add a 1p 15a breaker? Well you need a panel filler...

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You wont see too many GE panels.
GE jumped into the resi market many years ago. Then they left for about 20years or so.
When they returned, a lot of the established contractors wouldn't touch them for fear of being abandoned again.
It also didn't help that there was a problem with the bus bar in the old panels. So GE had an uphill battle which they lost
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Leviton panels appeared in HD here about a month ago. I can already see the dust gathering on the boxes. Pricing is not competitive with the established 1" brands, therefore the only "benefit" is the plug on breaker design.

I'll be a broken record again but I just don't see them gaining traction. Contractors are already leery of proprietary designs especially in my area. QO is rare in resi and CH-CH even more so. Then Leviton comes along with an odd duck and they expect it to take over? I don't see it lasting another year.
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CH-CH has been used a lot around here, but in old installations. I don't see many newer installations of it. Maybe it was cheaper a couple decades ago.
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GE is Peter D's new favorite panel brand
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CH-CH has been used a lot around here, but in old installations. I don't see many newer installations of it. Maybe it was cheaper a couple decades ago.
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Around here Homeline seems to be the panel of the day
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Around here Homeline seems to be the panel of the day
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