[360max]

Mounting panels on 1 5/8" strut on wall, I say the dedicated electrical space required in 110.26 (E)(F) starts at the wall to the front of the panels (includes the 1 5/8" strut). Whats your opinion?

Someone wants to put a 1 3/8" air line in across the panels at 8'6", tight to wall, says will be behind strut. . It would cause me to cut 20" off all the vertical pieces I have the 15-20 panels mounted on.

 

[BBQ]

I disagree with your interpretation.

 

[chicken steve]

My opinion is dedicated space is the least of our trades worries, the violators being those 'ignorant of the nec'


~CS~

 

[Big John]

Hate to say it, but I think the air-line guy is within his rights.

I've mounted panels on free-standing racks that had braces that ran back to the wall. In those cases the strut didn't count into the dedicated space, and I don't think it technically does in your case, either.

 

[360max]

I disagree with your interpretation.

...front of panel to back of panel would be my, "to the letter of the code" interpretation.

 

[BBQ]

Which section of 110.26 would you say supports your view?

(Edit Sorry, you already said it)

 

[Big John]

If your racks are already gonna be set on deep strut, and his pipe is shallower than the strut, how does he end up in the way?

 

[BBQ]

Here are some code sections.

F) Dedicated Equipment Space. All switchboards, pan-elboards, distribution boards, and motor control centers shall be located in dedicated spaces and protected from damage.

Exception: Control equipment that by its very nature or because of other rules of the Code must be adjacent to or within sight of its operating machinery shall be permitted in those locations.

(1) Indoor. Indoor installations shall comply with 110.26(F)(1)(a) through (F)(1)(d).

(a) Dedicated Electrical Space. The space equal to the width and depth of the equipment and extending from the floor to a height of 1.8 m (6 ft) above the equipment or to the structural ceiling, whichever is lower, shall be dedicated to the electrical installation. No piping, ducts, leak protec-tion apparatus, or other equipment foreign to the electrical installation shall be located in this zone.

Equipment. A general term, including material, fittings, devices, appliances, luminaires, apparatus, machinery, and the like used as a part of, or in connection with, an electri-cal installation.

Based on the definition of equipment i am going to change my opinion. Strut could be included in the mix.

That said, I think you would be am ass for forcing the issue.

 

[360max]

If your racks are already gonna be set on deep strut, and his pipe is shallower than the strut, how does he end up in the way?

I'll have to cut 20" off all the 10' vertical struts already installed.

 

[360max]

Here are some code sections.





Based on the definition of equipment i am going to change my opinion. Strut could be included in the mix.

That said, I think you would be am ass for forcing the issue.

I am not going to force the issue , just interested in everyone else's opinion.

 

[Arc'n'Spark]

Why do you have to cut 20" off? The plumber doesn't own a sawzall?

 

[3xdad]

It would be a much cleaner install if he used the damn strut at 8'6" high for the air line.

What would be the problem with this?

 

[papaotis]

yeah, the way i read this is no other equipment shall occupy this space!:whistling2:

 

[walkerj]

If its in his way and not necessary, he can cut it to install his nonsense

 

[btharmy]

You don't have to cut anything. If he thinks it is in his way, he needs to cut it. I would mount a horizontal strut across the top of the verticals for support of conduits leaving the panels. In that case, he needs to find another route. It becomes your code required means of support for the conduits and cannot be removed by him.

 

[360max]

...he already has the SS conduit installed 4" off the wall and parallel for the entire length of the wall. He will move it into wall and use 7/8" strut with split straps.

 

[hardworkingstiff]

...he already has the SS conduit installed 4" off the wall....

How is this being supported, from the ceiling or the wall?

 

[ponyboy]

If it didn't interfere with any conduits coming out of the top of the panels I wouldn't make a fuss. Me and our fitters are all good buddies yup yup

 

[360max]

How is this being supported, from the ceiling or the wall?

wall

 

[hardworkingstiff]

wall

What is he using to hold that pipe 4" off the wall, a bracket of some sorts?