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Find the trip curves for the breaker in questions.
 
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In my course the instructor mentioned how a 15A breaker can go over its limit for 5 to 10 minutes then it will trip. Anyone noticed this or is it certain brands?
Id say 5 to 10 minutes could be an understatement depending on how much excess current is being drawn. If you look at the time current curve for the specific brand it will give you a pretty good idea of what the breaker can handle and for how long.
 

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In my course the instructor mentioned how a 15A breaker can go over its limit for 5 to 10 minutes then it will trip. Anyone noticed this or is it certain brands?
They're supposed to for a few seconds to handle inrush current , but not 10 minutes..:laughing:

But with some of them they take longer than they should .
 

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Sparky 480 hit the nail on the head. All standard house hold breakers come with a time current curve. The more over load the faster it trips the less the longer it takes. The average 20 amp breaker can take hours to trip at 25 amps. The reason for this is inrush such as motors. Now, if the breaker sees something like 350 amps as it would on a short than it trips under 1/60th of a second.
 

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I agree, 480 got it.

The only thing the number on the handle means is that a breaker will never trip at less than that value.

UL 489 only requires that small molded case breakers must trip within an hour when loaded to 135%. So if a 20A breaker carries 27A for fifty-nine minutes then it's working within tolerance.
 

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I agree, 480 got it.

The only thing the number on the handle means is that a breaker will never trip at less than that ....
Well, technically they can. Since breakers are man-made machines, they're fallible. Not only will there be a certain +/- tolerance, but they may change over time. I've seen 20a breakers trip at 12-13 amps.
 

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Pretty sure Big John ran some FPEs through a breaker testing machine and they passed.
MTW actually sent me a bunch of others to test. I screwed up because today has been the first slow day in a while, would've been a good one to try.
I tested somewhere between 15-20, 15, 20 and 40 AMP FPEs all tripped in a reasonable amount of time for Long TIme and Instantaneous operation.

This was over 3 years ago.
It seems I got my BJs confused. :jester:
 
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