[B4T]

I thought this would be better on a new thread..

According to EC Magazine article about code changes for 2014..

Dishwashers need to have GFCI protection and the "protective device installed at the origin of the branch circuit"

Some of you were going to use a countertop GFCI.. that won't fly according to this..

 

[chicken steve]

If only the cmp would consider a protective device large enough to go around one of these inbound from China .....:whistling2:

~CS~

 

[Next72969]

I thought this would be better on a new thread.. According to EC Magazine article about code changes for 2014.. Dishwashers need to have GFCI protection and the "protective device installed at the origin of the branch circuit" Some of you were going to use a countertop GFCI.. that won't fly according to this..

So combination breakers is essentially what youre saying.

 

[don_resqcapt19]

So combination breakers is essentially what youre saying.

As far as I know there are no AFCI/GFCI breakers on the market.

 

[Next72969]

As far as I know there are no AFCI/GFCI breakers on the market.

Let me correct myself,i shouldve said thats what to expect, or something along those lines.

 

[3xdad]

Wait, why would a dishwasher recept be AFCI?

 

[Next72969]

Wait, why would a dishwasher recept be AFCI?

http://www.iaei.org/blogpost/928475/165827/Analysis-of-Changes-2014-NEC

Stole this from the other thread

 

[480sparky]

Wait, why would a dishwasher recept be AFCI?

Because the manufacturer wants to sell more AFCIs.

 

[Mshea]

Too many GFCIs in general and i do not believe a dishwasher is a good candidate for GFCI protection. we are going to see a lot of nuisance tripping

 

[KGN742003]

Too many GFCIs in general and i do not believe a dishwasher is a good candidate for GFCI protection. we are going to see a lot of nuisance tripping

Blatant troll post.

 

[B4T]

Blatant troll post.

No.. just his personal opinion... same as yours..

 

[Mike D]

It appears that we will have to put Dishwashers, Microwaves, Countertop GFCI, Refrig, etc, etc on AFCI.

So we will have an AFCI circuit protecting a GFCI outlet, protecting a toaster. sheese.....

 

[Bkessler]

Eventually it seems like everything will have afci and gfci protection.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Nevermind

 

[Mike D]

210.8 d

 

[Next72969]

Where in the 2014 does it state the dishwasher must be gfci. It needs afci only is what I thought

210.8(d) apparently

 

[Dennis Alwon]

The gfci does not have to be at the beginning of the circuit but the afci does. Sorry about the other post

210.8(D) Kitchen Dishwasher Branch Circuit. GFCI protection
shall be provided for outlets that supply dishwashers
installed in dwelling unit locations.

 

[Next72969]

The gfci does not have to be at the beginning of the circuit but the afci does. Sorry about the other post

I like how u quoted the 2014 nec lol

 

[Dennis Alwon]

As far as I know there are no AFCI/GFCI breakers on the market.

There used to be but I agree I think that dropped them as no one was using them. I am pretty certain ge made them at one time but I may be mistaken.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I like how u quoted the 2014 nec lol

I do that alot so others know the source