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You finished reading it yet ?? 馃榿
No need to read it.
On each new inspection the Inspectors will tell what you did wrong. Lol
 

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You finished reading it yet ?? 馃榿
Lol no. Too busy lately.
I did take a quick glance and noticed a few things.
-Low voltage is now up to 1000v
-The bonding of the switches thing removed
-Tables 6,9,11 and 19 have changed. Seems odd at first but I think it might actually be better, need more time to check them out.
-Table 1-4 now have a column for the mm2 of each conductor.
-Table 39 is gone and so is the rule that said we could use it (4-004(22).
-and the weirdest thing.......There is no longer an index at the back of the book.
 

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Lol no. Too busy lately.
I did take a quick glance and noticed a few things.
-Low voltage is now up to 1000v
-The bonding of the switches thing removed
-Tables 6,9,11 and 19 have changed. Seems odd at first but I think it might actually be better, need more time to check them out.
-Table 1-4 now have a column for the mm2 of each conductor.
-Table 39 is gone and so is the rule that said we could use it (4-004(22).
-and the weirdest thing.......There is no longer an index at the back of the book.
6 and 9 seemed to be a waste of paper.
All the years before we only needed 1 chart. Guess someone wanted to show off their math skills on fill calculations.
 

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Lol no. Too busy lately.
I did take a quick glance and noticed a few things.
-Low voltage is now up to 1000v
-The bonding of the switches thing removed
-Tables 6,9,11 and 19 have changed. Seems odd at first but I think it might actually be better, need more time to check them out.
-Table 1-4 now have a column for the mm2 of each conductor.
-Table 39 is gone and so is the rule that said we could use it (4-004(22).
-and the weirdest thing.......There is no longer an index at the back of the book.
No 39 ? Thats rough. And the loss of index is weird. Maybe because they want to push the digital pdf with the search function?
 

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I won't find anything without the index. I wouldn't want to write a test without it either.

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Table 39 and the code with it too !! That's a fairly major change.

Wonder if there is just a new rule somewhere, or the load calc is different ? adjusted amperage on tables ??
 

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Table 39 and the code with it too !! That's a fairly major change.

Wonder if there is just a new rule somewhere, or the load calc is different ? adjusted amperage on tables ??
That was my first thought as well but I have not found anything yet
 

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Here is another interesting one.
8-304 max outlets per circuit

so apparently 100% rated 15 and 20 amp breakers are available now? I鈥檝e never seen one. Anyway, Here is the change.

15 amp circuit with 80% rated overcurrent = 12 outlets max
15 amp circuit with 100% rated overcurrent = 15 outlets max
20 amp circuit with 80% rated overcurrent = 16 outlets max
20 amp circuit with 100% rated overcurrent = 20 outlets max
 

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Some more

26-704(2)

All outdoor 15 and 20 amp receptacles within 2.5 m of grade must be GFI protected.
(Old code that was only for residential.)

26-652 branch circuits below ground level in designated flood zones.
All circuits located below ground level (basement) in a designated flood zone must have GFI protection

26-712 sump pump receptacles must be located above flood elevation in a designated flood zone.
 

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Thanks @eddy current for sharing! 4-004(22) and Table 39 have previously not been allowed under the Manitoba electric code, so no loss to us there lol. Sorry about the rest of ya!
With the 8-304 16 outlets on a 20A circuit, I wonder if at some point we won't end up where the NEC is with 15A receptacles being allowed on 20A circuits.
The 26-704(2) makes sense, I mean stupid people don't only electrocute themselves at home... :rolleyes:
The 26-652 and 26-712 are interesting... A good chunk of Manitoba is the red river valley and I'm guessing would be considered a designated food zone. But I have to wonder how that works with a sump pump receptacle... My parents live south of Winnipeg in the flood plain, they have a 4 ft flood wall that can be built around their house in bad years. So if the sump pump is in the basement, the receptacle has to be 1-2ft above the first floor level?? Those pumps better come with longer cords I guess...馃し鈥嶁檪锔忦煠封嶁檪锔
 

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I won't find anything without the index. I wouldn't want to write a test without it either.

Tim.
No kidding! And they only save 30ish pages out of 941 (2018)..... Tests with the random mostly obscure stuff would be a pain to try and find. Or tests will be done with an ereader with a codebook pdf on it?
 

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So if the sump pump is in the basement, the receptacle has to be 1-2ft above the first floor level?? Those pumps better come with longer cords I guess...馃し鈥嶁檪锔忦煠封嶁檪锔
Works out well if you have a IP-68 rated panel enclosure in the basement 馃檭
 

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Works out well if you have a IP-68 rated panel enclosure in the basement 馃檭
No it doesn't! IP ratings by themselves are not acceptable. 2-402 Table 65, you would nee a type 6 or 6P depending if its a temporary or prolonged submersion. I can only imagine what the cost of that is. But we can flood the panel as long as the receptacle stays dry lol.
 

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No it doesn't! IP ratings by themselves are not acceptable. 2-402 Table 65, you would nee a type 6 or 6P depending if its a temporary or prolonged submersion. I can only imagine what the cost of that is. But we can flood the panel as long as the receptacle stays dry lol.
IP-68 = Nema 6P (for the most part)
That was my point thou .... can flood everything, just not the sump recept :LOL:

Will be interesting to see if there are any Appendix B notes on that rule, lol
 
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