[ElectricJoeNJ]

Just got this in my email today. http://cl.publicaster.com/ViewInBro...0|41949&digest=eWgxRTUpOa2aYABEq9MoLA&sysid=1

 

[FrunkSlammer]

So it protects upstream wiring??

How far upstream does it protect? Damn that could be awesome or horrible.

 

[kgb62]

So it protects upstream wiring?? How far upstream does it protect? Damn that could be awesome or horrible.

I was told they do protect downstream wiring. But they are also the same price as a breaker. So you might as well install a breaker and protect the whole circuit.

 

[Classic_Toby]

We put then in on a remodel a while ago. The sub panel was full of twins with no room for full size breakers. We didn't pull new home runs, just reworked existing. I tried to change the sub to one with more space, but got shot down by the GC and HO. The AHJ said to use the AFCI outlets, they work great till you plug in a vacuum.

 

[macmikeman]

We put then in on a remodel a while ago. The sub panel was full of twins with no room for full size breakers. We didn't pull new home runs, just reworked existing. I tried to change the sub to one with more space, but got shot down by the GC and HO. The AHJ said to use the AFCI outlets, they work great till you plug in a vacuum.

............

 

[480sparky]

.....So you might as well install a breaker and protect the whole circuit.

Which is what is required anyway.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

They are convenient devices when you add on to circuit or replace outlets in areas where afci are required. Some old houses it may not be advisable to install an afci and do the entire home as the old wiring can be a nightmare

 

[nrp3]

At least it is an option when dealing with the requirement for AFCI when replacing a receptacle and you've got a Zinsco or FPE panel. I have six on the truck and haven't tried one yet. I have been changing the breakers during receptacle replacement.

 

[Joefixit2]

Right now I have a small addition to a master bedroom I will be wiring, three receps and four cans. The existing circuit is half of a MWBC and the panel is about a mile away with no attic or basement. This just might be the ticket. I'm off to HD right now to see if they got any yet.

 

[nrp3]

They should. Around here they have been on the shelves for a few months.

 

[MTW]

They should. Around here they have been on the shelves for a few months.

They'll probably be on clearance soon. :laughing:

 

[Joefixit2]

they didn't have them. The electrical guy was clueless. my local home depot sucks.

 

[MTW]

they didn't have them. The electrical guy was clueless. my local home depot sucks.

They started selling them here only in the past few months.

 

[Meadow]

Im seeing them now. Good for upgrades when dealing with old panels.

 

[mark35]

We have them here at my HD in NJ, like $28 for the 15amp and $30 for the 20amp. No one has asked me for one yet.

 

[Legacyelectric]

I heard a rumor that you must feed an AFCI receptacle with either emt or mc cable in order for it to replace an arc fault breaker... Anyone else?

 

[MTW]

I heard a rumor that you must feed an AFCI receptacle with either emt or mc cable in order for it to replace an arc fault breaker... Anyone else?

Yes, that requirement is for new circuits only. A replacement receptacle or extension of an existing branch circuit doesn't have that requirement.

 

[MTW]

Im seeing them now. Good for upgrades when dealing with old panels.

I can't believe you didn't at least remind us how useless the are. :blink::laughing:

 

[Legacyelectric]

Yes, that requirement is for new circuits only. A replacement receptacle or extension of an existing branch circuit doesn't have that requirement.

Thanks

 

[Skipbayless]

What is the abbreviation MWBC? I keep seeing it but it hasn't clicked...

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