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I'd love to see them disappear tomorrow. :thumbsup:
I think if we all formed a class action law suit making them prove themeselves in a court of law to the public they would fade away quickly.
 
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And then we'll clickback to molten wires directly off a SqD AFCI, youtube videos of glowing arcs on AFCI breakers and such forth.
Taskforce is a very bad word in my world, it's a socialist movement word . The government uses it in their socialist movements.
 

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National Electrical Manufacturers Association AFCI Taskforce

1300 North 17th Street, Suite 900
Rosslyn, VA 22209
(703) 841-3200

Where's Paul Abernathy, NEMA Field Representative?
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As far as I know, his job does not permit him to make posts in forums like this.


As far as information about AFCIs, I really don't trust NEMA as a source given the track record of misinformation provided though the whole AFCI adoption process. The most striking is the fact that the original proposals to require AFCIs said that they had a device that would do what they now tell us that the combination device will do...the only problem is the fact that the combination device did not exist until some 13 years after those original proposals.
 

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NEMA has four Field Representatives located in regional offices around the country. Their regions of coverage are aligned with the International Association of Electrical Inspectors (IAEI) Section Regions.
 

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National Electrical Manufacturers Association AFCI Taskforce

1300 North 17th Street, Suite 900
Rosslyn, VA 22209
(703) 841-3200

Where's Paul Abernathy, NEMA Field Representative?

One of the videos state wire was stapled and warming up a stud in an AFCI home. No mention if the breaker tripped, but if no arcing signature is present than a fire will occur regardless. Anyone heard of wooden carbonization from current leaking into wood? That's not something an arc fault can detect.


So far I haven't seen any solid proof they work. But I do know one thing, a lot of electricians are taking them out because they are tripping on UL listed appliances.

As I said, arc fault logic belongs in line reclosers and MV substation feeder breakers, not LV power systems.
 

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Joe,
As far as I know, his job does not permit him to make posts in forums like this.


As far as information about AFCIs, I really don't trust NEMA as a source given the track record of misinformation provided though the whole AFCI adoption process. The most striking is the fact that the original proposals to require AFCIs said that they had a device that would do what they now tell us that the combination device will do...the only problem is the fact that the combination device did not exist until some 13 years after those original proposals.
That was the most artificial testimonial I have ever seen, it made infomercials look realistic in their testimomials, they might want to hire Alex Trebec .
 

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Not just receptacles are to be afci protected. The entire circuit that feeds receptacles in bedrooms needs to be afci protected. Lights in bedrooms are not required to be afci protected.

26-722 Branch circuits for dwelling units
(f) branch circuits that supply receptacles installed in sleeping facilities of a dwelling unit shall be protected by an arc-fault circuit interrupter;
 
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