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Can a homeowner buy all of the material and 1099 a contractor for the labor?
No, a 1099 is for a company, government or nonprofit to claim on their tax forms. It's about them, not us. You could throw them all away, not file with them. The only way you would get caught is if the IRS crossed their tax filings with yours(not likely).
 

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No, a 1099 is for a company, government or nonprofit to claim on their tax forms. It's about them, not us. You could throw them all away, not file with them. The only way you would get caught is if the IRS crossed their tax filings with yours(not likely).
That's what I thought. It came up in a conversation awhile back and I was wondering.
 

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I'm still not sure where the government gets the constitutional right to tax labor.
The gov't doesn't tax labor, or material markup, or "profit"
They tax income, all of which qualifies.
 

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By calling it profit.
And how do we determine profit? We take the total gross income of your company lets say $500k, we subtract the cost of materials that you actually spent, the business expenses, employee payroll and their taxes paid, any other business item that's deductible. The amount that is left is what is considered profit that you made from your company, you are then taxed on that amount. So no they're not taxing you on labor. They're taxing you based on the number after you've paid your business expenses.
 

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And how do we determine profit? We take the total gross income of your company lets say $500k, we subtract the cost of materials that you actually spent, the business expenses, employee payroll and their taxes paid, any other business item that's deductible. The amount that is left is what is considered profit that you made from your company, you are then taxed on that amount. So no they're not taxing you on labor. They're taxing you based on the number after you've paid your business expenses.

When they tax a paycheck, they are taxing your labor.
 

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When they tax a paycheck, they are taxing your labor.
We're talking about two different things here, one is corporate and business tax and another is employee tax. So you're saying you shouldn't pay any taxes?
 

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When they tax a paycheck, they are taxing your labor.

I hate kicking a dead horse. What you get as take-take-home-pay as an employee, that is call gross income. After the govt taxes you, you're left with net income. Gross income is a result of you labor.

Labor=time spent working. Labor earns you money. That money, is called gross income. The govt can't tax time spent working. They can tax gross income.
I suppose that indirectly they tax labor, but that's exactly correct. This is why it is not unconstitutional.
 

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Sorry for the thread derailment Butcher. To my knowledge, only the hiring contractor can expense a hired contractors invoice. You cannot expense a contractor's invoice as a homeowner. Unless it is a energy upgrade, I believe that would be classified as a tax credit.
 

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We're talking about two different things here, one is corporate and business tax and another is employee tax. So you're saying you shouldn't pay any taxes?
No, they shouldn't be taxing my labor. Sure they can tax profit from investments, business or restate but they have no business taxing labor, it's tantamount to slavery. Why should someone be taxed just because they work when someone that chooses not to work gets the same benefits of public safety and infrastructure scot free?
 

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No, they shouldn't be taxing my labor. Sure they can tax profit from investments, business or restate but they have no business taxing labor, it's tantamount to slavery. Why should someone be taxed just because they work when someone that chooses not to work gets the same benefits of public safety and infrastructure scot free?
You probably pay little if any income tax.
 

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I'm still not sure where the government gets the constitutional right to tax labor.
I think it was the 16th Amendment, but I bet you knew that.

It's the price we pay for not controlling our government. The original tax revenue plan was a tax on commerce with the USA. But alas, then people took care of themselves and their families, and their neighbors. My how things have changed.

I read an opinion once that said the Founding Fathers would have been shooting by now (talking about the taxes the citizens of this country pay).

It is not a simple subject, and I'm not well read enough to comment more than I just did, but wow have things have changed in just a couple of hundred years.


Edit: To the OP question,
http://finance.zacks.com/file-1099-contractor-hired-work-own-home-7492.html

If you hire someone to paint your store, for example, you might have to send her a 1099-MISC. If you hire someone to paint your house, don't sweat it. The 1099 form is for businesses: If a contractor does work for you in your private home, it's his responsibility to report the income. Even if the same person painted your house and your store, you don't include the payments for your house on your business's 1099.
 
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