Speaking of writing well. I worked around a guy, very certain he was a FLE, who used to write poems nearly every day about the activities at work. Some of the best poems ever.
Speaking of writing well. I worked around a guy, very certain he was a FLE, who used to write poems nearly every day about the activities at work. Some of the best poems ever.
Round here we spin them right out the door thank god... The only ones we have had and that has been 6-7 in last 2 years have been pos's that were intentionally ****ing stuff up and slowing progress. Good riddance and if thats what it is to be a FLE, will spin the rest.
Quite amusing thread, lots of speculative statements and "horror stories". Makes for a good read. The best part is how easily "shop men" label travelers as troublemakers, although without travelers to man the work the local shops would lose it. Funny stuff.
I have met a few. I watch how they carry themselves on the job. They have their good and their bad, just like any other group. For the most part, good people with good intentions, a few bad apples can spoil the bunch I guess. Met some I would be happy to work with, met others I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire. I've noticed they certainly know how to stand together and have each other's back. Certainly won't smoke the pole to keep a job, maybe that's the difference from most electricians that gives them a bad name. Maybe they have some questionable tactics. I dont know. But I do know they help a lot of people in their times of need, even contractors from time to time. Just my observations from watching.
Yes, completely different. Like opposite ends of the color spectrum. Salting is a market recovery technique employed by a hall to flip employees/companies by sending designated members to apply for positions within a non-signatory shop with the hopes of organizing. Many union electricians frown on salting and see it as an excuse to work non-union with the halls blessing, further harming a union shops chance of being awarded a bid. Some members who sign up to salt end up staying with the contractor they were sent to flip. Not the best way to go about it in my opinion.
I worked a powerhouse with some. Very quality conscious when all was going well. Treat them right and all is well. They flooded the hall when they heard we were coming down in a company truck. Worked toolies with a pretty good one. Made sure I handed him the bolt with the cut washer the right way. I told him it wasn't a Belleville washer and wasn't for electrical connection. Just flashing for buss duct. Talk about anal... Good hand. Asked if I wanted to go for a beer with his buddies after work. My road parter said not to. He had an offer to go out for a drink when we had a large job in our home local and took the guy up on it. They were all in a circle drinking, then suddenly the " meeting " started and he was drinking his beer out of the circle. He advised me against. The next day I overheard a couple snickering that he (I), would be all right if he would just start bumping thumbs. I don't get the benefit. Maybe it's just one of those things that is good for some but not for all. I feel like in a way like I am non union when working around fles. Awkward. Why isn't being union good enough for me. Fles please reply.
I'm starting a secret organization, think i'll name it SLEEZE. We'll have secret handshakes and pig latin hints on the job for those savey enough to decipher them. We're also going to have wet Tshirt parties every day after work, all to save the trade from itself of course!.....~CS~
why not short statements in hex code and dirty laughter
this will have everyone else wondering what the hell going on
(pig latin is too easily understood)
I have workied along side fles when traveling. Some were excellent conduit benders, but not much beyond that( unable to trim, terminate, install luminares etc) They would put down hard working honest brothers because they had organized in years ago or drove a Toyota. I did see them stand up for conditions and safety, but only within their circle of bros. If they really wanted a better, stronger and more united IBEW, they would work twords a true 8 hrs work for 8 hours of pay.
I have workied along side fles when traveling. Some were excellent conduit benders, but not much beyond that( unable to trim, terminate, install luminares etc) They would put down hard working honest brothers because they had organized in years ago or drove a Toyota. I did see them stand up for conditions and safety, but only within their circle of bros. If they really wanted a better, stronger and more united IBEW, they would work twords a true 8 hrs work for 8 hours of pay.
A lot of what I thought were possibly fles were working white paper. Some good brothers buddy. Then got mad when got laid off out of order. Didn't even have a ticket and causing havoc. Selling t shirts at the brass shack. The other half were going to the clinic on light duty. Nowhere else has light duty better than the big jobs I guess. Hang in the parts crib ****ing off. Seemed perfectly capable to me. My foreman set me up with a good toolie like I explained earlier, but have no respect for many others. You should be ashamed to be one of those guys. Your members have shamed the good ones. Worked a different job with an older man that said he was just a fun loving electrician. This guy showed us all how it is done. I had the greatest respect for him. Out of Jefferson City. Thanks to him, he showed us rigging and other techniques for running 4" rigid without breaking yourself. I am on the bubble with my opinion of them. Some great, some not.
Makes sense-I heard someone recently say he thinks fleas are known by the welder's caps they wear under the hard hats? Sounds like a less gay idea than the handshake with thumb rub:no:
Anyway I like the idea of Contractors having to abide by the contract but then again I also think all JW's other than Foreman should sign the books when the job is over, no transfers, so what does that make me? Nevermind, that was a rhetorical question.
I was told the are guys who purposely sabotage a job. To drag out work.... I was also told they will never identify themselves as one.... so if they claim to be one. They aren't. They are more than bums. They will do serious, costly damage at the loss of the contractors they working for.
I worked with a FLE that had a small stainless pocket knife that said FLE- fraternity, loyalty, excellence on it. I learned some good tricks of the trade over the years working with FLE brothers. Another time on a different job I was told by another FLE brother that JC (the guy I was partnered up with as an apprentice) was the "Grand Shanker", one of the head FLE brothers. I dropped JC at his motel room after work one time- he said not to tell anyone that he rode in my Toyota. He pulled out a salad bowl that must have had hundreds of those little 1" dia pins and pen clips from different locals and events- he let me have a few. This all mostly happened in the late 90s
I was told the are guys who purposely sabotage a job. To drag out work.... I was also told they will never identify themselves as one.... so if they claim to be one. They aren't. They are more than bums. They will do serious, costly damage at the loss of the contractors they working for.
First of all most of these posts against anything they don’t understand are by rats (or if ibew, worms). The ignorance is astounding. Don’t knock something you don’t understand as I don’t. I’ve worked with the best of the best, and the worst. You little kids need to worry about about blowing the boss, as usual, and not knocking what you or I don’t know anything about, and be respectful.
Yeah, something like Fraternity of Linemen and Electricians. Don't quote me on that. You might have had a man shake your hand with his thumb all curled up on the top of his handshake. If so, you just shook hands with a FLE and he was just checking to see if you were too.
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