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Hi, I've just moved to BC, Canada. I'm a fully qualified electrician in Australia and I have enough work experience to challenge the exam over here.

So I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a good textbook that will help? Maybe the ones apprentices use in college? I've also got myself a second hand copy of the Canadian electrical code. From memory it's the 07 or 09 edition.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Also sorry if I've posted in the wrong section I couldn't find any similar threads.

Thanks in advance
 

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Hi, I've just moved to BC, Canada. I'm a fully qualified electrician in Australia and I have enough work experience to challenge the exam over here.

So I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a good textbook that will help? Maybe the ones apprentices use in college? I've also got myself a second hand copy of the Canadian electrical code. From memory it's the 07 or 09 edition.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Also sorry if I've posted in the wrong section I couldn't find any similar threads.

Thanks in advance

Welcome to the Forum !


Good Luck !
 

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The new code is 2012.. Can't say there's a text book to help, but I think you could find a prep course to challenge the InterProvincial Red Seal. It's a tough exam because it's not all electrical knowledge, there's quite a few obscure questions and topics.

CSA does sell a prep exam thing (ESAT).. it's like 1500 questions, from those they pick 100 questions that will be on your exam. So that means if you run through the questions and get pretty comfy at answering around 80% correct, you should do fine on the challenge.

Also, you only get 3 tries. So don't waste chances. Good luck!
 

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Thanks for the help! I had a look at the ESAT prep exam and the study guide. I'll look into getting them.

It's been a few years since I've done any theory but hopefully it'll come back to me fairly easily!

Also, do you know the difference between a Construction Electrician and an Industrial Electrician? Can a Construction Electrician work in industrial areas? Such as mines and rigs?

Thanks again
 

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Thanks for the help! I had a look at the ESAT prep exam and the study guide. I'll look into getting them.

It's been a few years since I've done any theory but hopefully it'll come back to me fairly easily!

Also, do you know the difference between a Construction Electrician and an Industrial Electrician? Can a Construction Electrician work in industrial areas? Such as mines and rigs?

Thanks again
A 309A electrician (construction and maintenance electrician) can work in almost any environment, including industrial. Though some companies may require an industrial license when hiring for industrial work. A 442 electrician (industrial) can only work for a company that owns the plant they are working in.

I would get the 309A license, its much more versatile. You can challenge the 442 ticket later if you need it.

Edit: I live in Ontario, there may be different laws in BC.
 

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You're out of the trade I believe.
That's an old wives tale for sure.

You can't ban someone from "the trade" because they failed a test three times. Think about it, that's just ridiculous.

What is a persons recourse if they fail the 3rd time.
I believe they require you to take a refresher course. Or in the OP's case, they may require him to complete a full 9000 hour apprenticeship, with 28 weeks of schooling.
 

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That's an old wives tale for sure.

You can't ban someone from "the trade" because they failed an test three times. Think about it, that's just ridiculous.



I believe they require you to take a refresher course. Or in the OP's case, they may require him to complete a full 9000 hour apprenticeship, with 28 weeks of schooling.
Yes, I believe they have lost their opportunity to challenge the exam. I helped an Irish guy to study and, as I recall, there is also a time restriction on re-tests. He was doing some panic studying after he failed the first time.

To the OP: You have to take it seriously. We used the CSA practice questions and they were good. The tests are different. This guy found his first test to be heavy on code but the examiners said the next test could be heavy on theory. You need to make sure you're up to speed with everything before you challenge the exam.
 

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That's an old wives tale for sure.

You can't ban someone from "the trade" because they failed a test three times. Think about it, that's just ridiculous.
It's not an old wives tale, and it only applies to people challenging the exam. You get 3 tries, if you can't pass it in 3 attempts, I guess they make you do an apprenticeship like everyone else, because obviously your previous training was totally inadequate.

There is no limit on the number of attempts for anyone else. But challenges are 3 tries, and you will not have a Certificate of Apprenticeship, nor a Certificate of Qualification.. all you get is a Red Seal stamp, which is sufficient for most places.

Think about it, how many times do you want Don Juan from Mexico challenging the exam, until he finally guesses the right combination of ADBCEDDFCEFABCBA to hit the magic 70% pass? That's just ridiculous, 3 tries Don Juan, 3 strikes you're out.
 

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It's not an old wives tale, and it only applies to people challenging the exam. You get 3 tries, if you can't pass it in 3 attempts, I guess they make you do an apprenticeship like everyone else, because obviously your previous training was totally inadequate.

There is no limit on the number of attempts for anyone else. But challenges are 3 tries, and you will not have a Certificate of Apprenticeship, nor a Certificate of Qualification.. all you get is a Red Seal stamp, which is sufficient for most places.

Think about it, how many times do you want Don Juan from Mexico challenging the exam, until he finally guesses the right combination of ADBCEDDFCEFABCBA to hit the magic 70% pass? That's just ridiculous, 3 tries Don Juan, 3 strikes you're out.
I'm sure it's not as dry as you put it, and having a red seal stamp is a far cry from being "out of the trade". I'm sure they would still have the option to complete a formal apprenticeship.
 

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It's not an old wives tale, and it only applies to people challenging the exam. You get 3 tries, if you can't pass it in 3 attempts, I guess they make you do an apprenticeship like everyone else, because obviously your previous training was totally inadequate.

There is no limit on the number of attempts for anyone else. But challenges are 3 tries, and you will not have a Certificate of Apprenticeship, nor a Certificate of Qualification.. all you get is a Red Seal stamp, which is sufficient for most places.

Think about it, how many times do you want Don Juan from Mexico challenging the exam, until he finally guesses the right combination of ADBCEDDFCEFABCBA to hit the magic 70% pass? That's just ridiculous, 3 tries Don Juan, 3 strikes you're out.
If you fail 3 times, you go to school. If you Challenge the exam you still get a C of Q and a red seal. You just don't get a C of A.
 
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