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Can it fit between 16" studs? What's it cost? How much for the staples? Any interlock, so you don't hit the wire? Looks cool!, Thanks
Yes, it fits between standard studs.
$379 for the tool + 2 batteries. $12 for 400 staples.
Yes, it has a safety that positions the tool around the wire so it cans damage the wire.
 

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That thing is an accident waiting to happen.... :no::no::no:

I can see staples going into the roimex and causing all kinds of trouble..

IMO.. the best tool is old school.. a hammer and insulated staple.. they are your friend.. :thumbsup:
 

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That thing is an accident waiting to happen.... :no::no::no:

I can see staples going into the roimex and causing all kinds of trouble..

IMO.. the best tool is old school.. a hammer and insulated staple.. they are your friend.. :thumbsup:
I thought about using insulated staples. Any cost difference from just plain staples?
 

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I thought about using insulated staples. Any cost difference from just plain staples?
Pennies more.. but the main reason for using insulated staples is they won't dig into the wire like a standard staple will..

If you hit a knot.. the staple will bend and just might cut into the wire...

Using insulated staple just gives you another layer of protection and makes it less likely you will have AFCI's tripping..

Here is a what can happen when a metal object touches both ground and neutral conductor..

I had to cut the wall open to fix the problem.. :mad::mad:



 

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I just use that black staplegun. Its fine for small jobs. I wouldn't do two houses in a row with one tho. Hell on the wrist. Its fast neat works fine. Yeah it can damage the wire if your not careful but chances are if your too stupid to use the stapler then the trade is going to chew you up and spit you out anyway.

I think I got it from depot for $40? Worth the money for sure. I looked at that electric gun if it was smaller I would have bought it but it just looks big and bulky. Ill squeeze a handle for the extra $340.
 

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Pennies more.. but the main reason for using insulated staples is they won't dig into the wire like a standard staple will..

If you hit a knot.. the staple will bend and just might cut into the wire...

Using insulated staple just gives you another layer of protection and makes it less likely you will have AFCI's tripping..

Here is a what can happen when a metal object touches both ground and neutral conductor..

I had to cut the wall open to fix the problem.. :mad::mad:
that is a stupid example

those staples are from an inept insulation installer

if you know what you are doing and can use a hammer, then you don't need an insulated staple

but if youre a ****** like the person in your example must have been, then not even an insulated staple would help you
 

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Pennies more.. but the main reason for using insulated staples is they won't dig into the wire like a standard staple will..

If you hit a knot.. the staple will bend and just might cut into the wire...

Using insulated staple just gives you another layer of protection and makes it less likely you will have AFCI's tripping..

Here is a what can happen when a metal object touches both ground and neutral conductor..

I had to cut the wall open to fix the problem.. :mad::mad:
Those pictures are due to the insulation guys from the looks of it.


I am careful with standard staples, but I had this one guy that the boss keeps around , staple the HR's on one job. I went back to check his work and it looked as if he tried to make the romex a permanent part of the structure.

I will check into the insulated ones thought.
 

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those staples are from an inept insulation installer
I am trimming out a job now where the hot from one switch box is not making it to that other. I have traced the wire and found out that somewhere between the top plate and the switch box, the cable is broken.

It could have been the insulator, sheetrock guy, or the cabinet installer. Either way I am going to have to fix it.
 

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I'm just posting an example of what can go wrong.. the point is metal object digging into the wire and tripping the AFCI..

That is my reason for using insulated staples.. it wouldn't be the first time a plumber or HVAC guy pulled on one of our wires to move it out of the way..

It slides easily thanks to the plastic protector...
 

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I'm just posting an example of what can go wrong.. the point is metal object digging into the wire and tripping the AFCI..

That is my reason for using insulated staples.. it wouldn't be the first time a plumber or HVAC guy pulled on one of our wires to move it out of the way..

It slides easily thanks to the plastic protector...
it's still a metal staple with a plastic protector
and it can still be driven through a wire if youre a ******

if you don't drive a metal staple too tight you can do the same thing

just don't see the need for the insulated staple
 
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