[chicken steve]

http://blackfridayprotests.org/

http://99pickets.org/2012/12/12/how-to-rebrand-walmart/

and finally, from Mark Vorpahl re: Counterpunch

Today’s current minimum wage has also fallen far behind in compensating workers for the wealth their labor creates. Had the minimum wage kept up with workers’ climbing productivity since 1960, it would be around $22 per hour today. What the corporate captains have not been able to cheat out of their employees by paying them less, they have more than made up for by increasing their workload and stress.

comments?

~CS~

 

[denny3992]

No black fri shopping here...

 

[big2bird]

http://blackfridayprotests.org/

http://99pickets.org/2012/12/12/how-to-rebrand-walmart/

and finally, from Mark Vorpahl re: Counterpunch





comments?

~CS~

Henry Ford, also a big union hater would have paid more. He wanted all his employeese to be able to afford a Model T. He introduced the $5.00 day when that was UNHEARD of. He understood the balance of paying a good wage, and getting a good days pay.
Wall Mart is just the greediest corp. on earth, and as a taxpayer, I pay all their employees food stamps and health care to subsidize THEIR profits. It makes me sick to my stomach.

 

[rewire]

Henry Ford, also a big union hater would have paid more. He wanted all his employeese to be able to afford a Model T. He introduced the $5.00 day when that was UNHEARD of. He understood the balance of paying a good wage, and getting a good days pay.
Wall Mart is just the greediest corp. on earth, and as a taxpayer, I pay all their employees food stamps and health care to subsidize THEIR profits. It makes me sick to my stomach.

I love Wal Mart we do service on eight. Nobody is forced to work at Wal Mart if they are unhappy with the wage get the skills you need to get a better wage.

 

[sbrn33]

I love Wal Mart we do service on eight. Nobody is forced to work at Wal Mart if they are unhappy with the wage get the skills you need to get a better wage.

Hey rewire, do the stores call you to do the work or does it go thru a maint. service company?

 

[big2bird]

Nobody is forced to work at Wal Mart if they are unhappy with the wage get the skills you need to get a better wage.

"I sold my soul to the company store."

 

[RGH]

Hate wal-doe mart....they opened one up 2 miles from me....now you read the police blotter and they (the coppers) are there several times a week....and often they are arresting the employees for stealing....so with that been said , old Italian saying......"the fish rots from the head down".....

 

[big2bird]

I love Wal Mart we do service on eight. Nobody is forced to work at Wal Mart if they are unhappy with the wage get the skills you need to get a better wage.

How do you like YOUR taxes subsidizing their workers?:whistling2:

 

[big2bird]

Speak of the devil. Just today:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ten-companies-paying-americans-least-112523979.html

 

[EBFD6]

How do you like YOUR taxes subsidizing their workers?:whistling2:

My tax dollars being wasted on prevailing wage projects to "level the playing field" for the unions benefit is much better.

 

[RGH]

As a footnote to this story....many are now going to be open at PM Thanksgiving day.....so much for blackfriday.....as a nation and group of all sorts of people this makes me sick....so little of what made us what we are as a nation means anything.....vetrans day, labor day, 4th of July, it goes on and on.....soon xmas will be a shopping day....f' their families they have to come in so we can continue our endless search for profits....I worked in a major supermarket when I was a kid...closed on sundays at 6....I remember when all stores were closed on sundays....how much in enough????......and yes they the shoppers will come for fear of missing something.....ah mass media....look into to my eyes....youuuuu feeeeel sleeeeeepy.......

 

[big2bird]

My tax dollars being wasted on prevailing wage projects to "level the playing field" for the unions benefit is much better.

It stimulates the economy much more than hand outs. Non-union benefits just as much. Are you really this stupid?

 

[MTW]

It stimulates the economy much more than hand outs. Non-union benefits just as much. Are you really this stupid?

Government spending never stimulates the economy. Are you really that ignorant of economics?

 

[big2bird]

Government spending never stimulates the economy. Are you really that ignorant of economics?

Really? The dow is at an all time high because of it, or do you not read the WSJ?

 

[EBFD6]

It stimulates the economy much more than hand outs. Non-union benefits just as much. Are you really this stupid?

There's the name calling, that didn't take long. I thought the union guys were always the ones being attacked on this site. Guess not.

It stimulates the economy?

Prevailing wage is a handout. It is a handout to the unions. Sure, the non-union workers make a little extra money while working prevailing wage but that isn't the purpose of it. Prevailing wage is meant to force the non-union companies to have to increase their costs so that the unions don't have to bid competitively for the project. If everyone's labor cost is the same then no one has an advantage. You would think that since the union's quality is so much better laughing::laughing::laughing::no they wouldn't need to compete based on price alone. Customers should be knocking their door down with contracts begging for union labor. Apparently, that's not the case, so they need the politicians to stack the rules in their favor with PLA's and prevailing wage laws.

Then again, maybe I just don't understand. I'm pretty stupid.

 

[big2bird]

There's the name calling, that didn't take long. I thought the union guys were always the ones being attacked on this site.

Then again, maybe I just don't understand. I'm pretty stupid.

At least we can agree on something.

 

[EBFD6]

At least we can agree on something.

I see what you did there, pretty clever.:brows:

 

[lefleuron]

Yeah

All those walmart/mcDonalds, Yum workers can afford to just up and quit.

All what? 3.5 million of them...how stupid you speak.

Because people who actually have educations on this site know how much

one costs.

Figure 72 credits, at $185.00 each, or $13,300 dollars. Add in $100.00 bucks

for books each credits (and that may be too low) and you are at $20,500 for

the raw cost of a single AAS at a technical school. Now add in travel and

wages lost while attending- and its one hell of a bill.

Now what if you are 1/2 of the income for a household with children? Its a

near impossible dream for 95%+ of those people.

Thats what? About 3.3 million of those people?

And how long would you have to work at 8 bucks per to pay for that

education....one you might be able to get a job with, but maybe not?

 

[EBFD6]

Yeah

All those walmart/mcDonalds, Yum workers can afford to just up and quit.

All what? 3.5 million of them...how stupid you speak.

Because people who actually have educations on this site know how much

one costs.

Figure 72 credits, at $185.00 each, or $13,300 dollars. Add in $100.00 bucks

for books each credits (and that may be too low) and you are at $20,500 for

the raw cost of a single AAS at a technical school. Now add in travel and

wages lost while attending- and its one hell of a bill.

Now what if you are 1/2 of the income for a household with children? Its a

near impossible dream for 95%+ of those people.

Thats what? About 3.3 million of those people?

And how long would you have to work at 8 bucks per to pay for that

education....one you might be able to get a job with, but maybe not?

I became an electrical apprentice with no education and started on the path to a better career (I was a stock clerk at a grocery store). It didn't cost me $20,000 to improve my situation, just a little motivation and hard work.

I have friends who are carpenters, plumbers, painters, etc. Same thing for them.

There are a lot more options in life besides a minimum wage dead end job at McDonalds or paying $100,000 for a masters degree. There is a lot of middle ground there. I would think that a tradesman such as yourself would understand the options available for someone who wants to work hard and better themselves. I submit that anyone who is "stuck" in a minimum wage job has only one person to blame. Of course there are always extenuating circumstances, but for the most part it is lack of motivation to put the work into it to make their situation better. People just want everything handed to them. No one wants to work for anything.

 

[RGH]

Mcdonalds irony ....when I was a kid they advertised so little if at all, food was pretty good......fast forward.....food crappy...advertising in the millions.....a hamburger was .25 then (yes...25 cents) :laughing: