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#### Cletis

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When it comes to the Device yoke volume why doesn't the formula account for large devices with 1 yoke (such as a honkin big gfci rec.) in a little blue box ???

Ex. a regular little receptacle takes about 1/2 the volume of your typical gfci receptacle yet accounts for the same when it comes to box fill.

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3) Where a box contains a device having a dimension greater than 2.54 cm between the mounting strap and back of the device, the total usable space shall be reduced by the space occupied by the device, calculated
as 82 cm3 multiplied by the depth of the device in centimetres divided by 2.54 (for example, a device
having a depth of 4 cm would occupy a space of 129 cm3, that is, 82 times 4 divided by 2.54).

#### Cletis

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3) Where a box contains a device having a dimension greater than 2.54 cm between the mounting strap and back of the device, the total usable space shall be reduced by the space occupied by the device, calculated
as 82 cm3 multiplied by the depth of the device in centimetres divided by 2.54 (for example, a device
having a depth of 4 cm would occupy a space of 129 cm3, that is, 82 times 4 divided by 2.54).
Where is that in the code book ?

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When it comes to the Device yoke volume why doesn't the formula account for large devices with 1 yoke (such as a honkin big gfci rec.) in a little blue box ???

Ex. a regular little receptacle takes about 1/2 the volume of your typical gfci receptacle yet accounts for the same when it comes to box fill.
Maybe the allowance is already assuming a big device.

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#### Cletis

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Maybe the allowance is already assuming a big device.
If their was an allowance for the gfci than there should be another allowance if you just put in a TR Receptacle ?

#### 480sparky

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When it comes to the Device yoke volume why doesn't the formula account for large devices with 1 yoke (such as a honkin big gfci rec.) in a little blue box ???

Ex. a regular little receptacle takes about 1/2 the volume of your typical gfci receptacle yet accounts for the same when it comes to box fill.

'Cuz da roolez wuz ritted beefore honkin big grfi recs wear maid n nobuddy haz maid uh perpozal too chainge it.

#### Cletis

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I'm very concerned on this ruling. It just considers yokes per strap which has nothing to do with device volume. It gives me nightmares sometimes

#### 480sparky

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I'm very concerned on this ruling. It just considers yokes per strap which has nothing to do with device volume. It gives me nightmares sometimes
Perhaps it's best if you left the trade. :laughing:

Or just do what electricians do: install a box with plenty of extra volume.

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. It gives me nightmares sometimes
Oh, come on...someone has to take this one...it's right there.

#### Daniel Case

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Omg don't you have anything else to worry about?

#### Cletis

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Omg don't you have anything else to worry about?
not really, I just keep thinking of all the crammed gfci rec. out their in little carlon blue boxes overheating and catching fires out there

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not really, I just keep thinking of all the crammed gfci rec. out their in little carlon blue boxes overheating and catching fires out there
ok sir.

#### aftershockews

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if I can hammer my wires in far enough to install my device, that's all that matters to me.:whistling2:

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aftershockews said:
if I can hammer my wires in far enough to install my device, that's all that matters to me.:whistling2:
Jeez i thought u were banned

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