[sprdave]

Are mechanical breaker interlocks approved/accepted in Canada? The ones for backfeeding a generator into a breaker in the main panel like this one: http://www.interlockkit.com/intro2.htm

I didn't think they are but can't find info either way.

 

[crosport]

Never seen those before.I'm thinking though that they wouldn't be allowed in Canada.I doubt those kits are CSA approved.

 

[wcord]

Never seen those before.I'm thinking though that they wouldn't be allowed in Canada.I doubt those kits are CSA approved.

I believe that the generator panel breakers also disconnect the neutrals ( 3 pole breakers)

 

[BoumBangBang]

Theybare allowed in Quebec anyway i can guarantee you that, and YES they do disconnect the neutal. Every homeowner wants those

 

[FrunkSlammer]

Those pieces of metal are allowed in Quebec?

 

[Hmacanada]

Funny how standby panels break the neutral but not the auto transfer switches eh?

 

[Hmacanada]

I don't have a problem with those, if you see what the home owners are doing now.
Turn off the main and back feed the panel from gen!
Just a matter of time before some one gets killed.
If the transfer switches were,nt over priced they might hire us to do it right in the first place.

 

[farlsincharge]

I know the Schneider ones are not csa approved.

 

[Vintage Sounds]

If the transfer switches were,nt over priced they might hire us to do it right in the first place.

Nah I doubt it. Those clowns don't even know what a transfer switch is.

 

[Hmacanada]

I used to do a lot of pole top transfer switches on farms in the rural areas and they don't break the neutrals either so why do the panels have to.
Confused to say they least!

 

[Hmacanada]

Cash grab I'm guessing!!

 

[oliquir]

even thought some parts are not CSA, some inspectors doesnt care since they are at least UL listed and not homemade kit

 

[Kryptes]

When I looked into them last year we got a big no on using them in Canada.

 

[sprdave]

So nobody has a code rule, ESA info/bulletins, etc on this stuff?
What about the Reliance Controls switches like the:
Reliance Controls TF151W http://www.reliancecontrols.com/ProductDetail.aspx?TF151W
31406CRK http://www.reliancecontrols.com/ProductDetail.aspx?31406CRK

I do know the neutral needs to be switched if you're using a neutral bonded generator (most portables are?).

ESA FAQ:

10-42-1
Question
I have heard there are different kinds of transfer devices that are required to be used with different kinds of residential standby generators, something to do with switching the neutral connection, can you explain?
Answer
Yes. The requirement for switching the neutral in the transfer device is dependant on the type of standby generator you have for your residence.
If the generator neutral is bonded to the generator frame then the Code requires the neutral to be switched in the transfer device.

 

[Hmacanada]

If the neutral is bonded to the generator case where is the case bonded?
Seems like a stupid question but just think about it for a second.
Everything gets bonded to the main service panel. So what's the difference ?

 

[Rollie73]

If the neutral is bonded to the generator case where is the case bonded?
Seems like a stupid question but just think about it for a second.
Everything gets bonded to the main service panel. So what's the difference ?

The case is bonded through the ground wire in the 4 wire cordset that connects the portable to the generator panel which is turn bonded to the main system ground. That bonds the neutral at the portable

Only explanation I can come up with......mostly because I'm too damn lazy to go any farther.:laughing:

 

[sprdave]

Funny how standby panels break the neutral but not the auto transfer switches eh?

Funny...or are you serious? Auto transfer switches don't because they use stationary generators where the neutral is not bonded in the generator.

 

[farlsincharge]

even thought some parts are not CSA, some inspectors doesnt care since they are at least UL listed and not homemade kit

I smuggled my own in from the US of A. IDGAF.

 

[Hmacanada]

You miss my meaning, every thing get bonded to case which get bonded at the service.
That's what I meant when I said think about it.

 

[Hmacanada]

The case is bonded through the ground wire in the 4 wire cordset that connects the portable to the generator panel which is turn bonded to the main system ground. That bonds the neutral at the portable Only explanation I can come up with......mostly because I'm too damn lazy to go any farther.:laughing:

Exactly everything goes back to the main service ground were the neutral is bonded to case.