[shocksystems]

I am looking for input from others about adding a pendant light over the table below this cathedral ceiling. Specifically, how you would install a box at the peak of that finished ceiling? With a big enough hole in the drywall I could install one of the Arlington cathedral fan boxes designed for new construction but I would like to avoid that much destruction if I can.

 

[SWDweller]

Installing a pendant light after the drywall is up is challenge. I would plan on moving everything out of the way and covering the floor and furniture. This is going to be a mess.

If the pic of the french doors is you switch location you will be opening up that area both at the top of the wall and again at the switch. Since this is an exterior wall the insulation will be a opportunity. Some times you get lucky with a metal fish tape.

The room will need to be painted when your done. Sure hope you said T&M. I do not see an easy way for this to be accomplished.

 

[220/221]

I will assume that the table is perfectly lined up with the peak? That is a tough situation. getting the box in is only half the challenge. Getting a canopy to fit properly is the bigger issue. I have seen something that fits on a nice straight peak line but I cant tell if this peak is more rounded.

It seems like you'd have to build a small piece to fit the contour of the peak and be big enough to allow a canopy to fit properly.

 

[kb1jb1]

I had a similar situation but I was able to sneak a wire to the peak from a small space between the rafters and ceiling joist in the attic. Fiberglass rods and laying in the insulation. The problem was getting a switch to the dining room on the first floor. I wound up using a Caseta switch in the second floor hallway and putting the Pico remote next to the existing wall switch in the dining room. As far as the Arlington fancy box goes, in my case I used a 3" metal pancake box and fastened the hanging light to the ridge with long screws. In my case the canopy hid the box. No cutting or patching required.

 

[shocksystems]

As far as the Arlington fancy box goes, in my case I used a 3" metal pancake box and fastened the hanging light to the ridge with long screws. In my case the canopy hid the box. No cutting or patching required.

Good point, the canopy on the light will dictate some options.

 

[shocksystems]

The room will need to be painted when your done. Sure hope you said T&M. I do not see an easy way for this to be accomplished.

I am thinking 8 hours for 2 guys. There is a good chance we will need to wait to install the light until after her painter patches and paints the drywall. Between the time on the job and the travel time I am hoping that covers it

 

[samgregger]

Hang it from the beam and move the table

 

[MHElectric]

There are some guys that seem to be masters at fishing wires in with no damage. But I usually just tell people we gotta cut Sheetrock.

When you put it to them like that, suddenly the job becomes a lot easier.

 

[CADPoint]

Does the owner have the house plans? It'd be a gold mine if they did. Funny the room didn't get a light when built.
I would certainly look at Kitchen lighting or kitchen table
IMO This is a tricky install in that the owner thinks they want a pendant, when they need downlights to cover an 8 person table. A light meter at night even with the other room lights on will be the tell, but it seems beyond that now, IE owner has a certain light in mind.
Just random keystrokes don't mind me.

 

[frankendodge]

What is that in the ceiling now, a speaker or an access hatch? Maybe one in the same.. Good chance the trusses are open enough to fish across. Depending where the switch location is in relation to all that it might not be too bad.

 

[macmikeman]

There is going to be blocking halfway up the sides of the ceiling. And also Casper the ghost is sitting on that table.

 

[readydave8]

We did these

 

[readydave8]

Can't remember was painted Luan or sheetrock

 

[readydave8]

It was prepainted boards (whiteboard), 1x4 or 1x6

 

[Tony Ankles]

I am looking for input from others about adding a pendant light over the table below this cathedral ceiling. Specifically, how you would install a box at the peak of that finished ceiling? With a big enough hole in the drywall I could install one of the Arlington cathedral fan boxes designed for new construction but I would like to avoid that much destruction if I can.

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Just putting this out there but if the fixture has a chain then a chain-hook to centre it could be an option.

 

[power]

But I usually just tell people we gotta cut Sheetrock.

I've noticed in the commercial industry where we face a difficult request like this that, the building operator doesn't always actually expect us to do this without cutting drywall/Sheetrock. In our case, I have some taping experience, so at least we can replace the drywall, tape, coat, and paint if we need to, that is, ceilings at 20+ feet so nobody can see the amateurs' job I do .

 

[MHElectric]

I've noticed in the commercial industry where we face a difficult request like this that, the building operator doesn't always actually expect us to do this without cutting drywall/Sheetrock. In our case, I have some taping experience, so at least we can replace the drywall, tape, coat, and paint if we need to, that is, ceilings at 20+ feet so nobody can see the amateurs' job I do .

I would not recommend re-hanging drywall , taping, finishing & painting in a commercial setting. Usually there are multiple people who are in charge of giving the final OK, where as in a residential setting, there’s only the home owners, who are sometimes much more understanding than a committee.

In this type of setting, stick to your guns. We do electrical. NOTHING ELSE.

 

[99cents]

Just putting this out there but if the fixture has a chain then a chain-hook to centre it could be an option.

It used to be done all the time and maybe still is. The electrician puts the fixture in the centre of the dining room but the table doesn’t go in the centre. The fixture is swagged over with a hook.