[emtnut]

Are they plugged in outside ? :laughing:

 

[gryczewskip]

Simplex

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[AK_sparky]

I'd have to check with the code book, but I believe if it is outside it needs to be GFCI protected.

If it is in an area exposed to weather, it also needs a bubble cover.

"Exposed" is generally determined by drawing a 45° line from the nearest roof edge back; if it is above that it is considered not exposed. In your case I believe the soffit would be considered not exposed.

 

[emtnut]

Sorry ... I missed the part of being up in the soffit

Yes to gfci, because the light string is still exposed.

 

[RFguy]

Maybe this:

Receptacles for residential occupancies 26-710 General
except for automobile heater receptacles provided in conformance with Rule 8-400, all receptacles installed outdoors and within 2.5 m of finished grade shall be protected with a ground fault circuit interrupter of the Class A type;

 

[HeretoHear]

They are above 2.5 m being in the soffit. AK_Sparky thats a good way to look at the 45 degree angle. It always takes me a extra moment to think of that 45degree rule. There are a zillion 45 degrees from horizontal in my mind. haha. It just seems silly to make them GFCI since you need a ladder to hang the lights...So somebody shouldn't be able to touch them by hand... I know I can use a normal cover plate. It says so in the rules. Just the GFCI question.

 

[nomadapower]

Not GFCI Protection needed, if above 2.5 Mts of finished grade.

 

[HeretoHear]

Beauty thats what I needed. I guess the answer was there at 26-710 eh RFguy. Funny how I still couldn't see it , until now!

 

[The_Modifier]

It just seems silly to make them GFCI since you need a ladder to hang the lights...

Agreed, but the code is the bare MINIMUM requirements.

So somebody shouldn't be able to touch them by hand...

True, but anyone can touch the aluminum downspout that is attached to the eavestrough that I run over with the lawnmower. :thumbsup:

 

[AK_sparky]

Maybe this:

Receptacles for residential occupancies 26-710 General
except for automobile heater receptacles provided in conformance with Rule 8-400, all receptacles installed outdoors and within 2.5 m of finished grade shall be protected with a ground fault circuit interrupter of the Class A type;

I forgot about the 2.5m rule; I guess it's never applied for anything I've installed. I think if I was installing it I would put a GFCI on it anyway just to be safe.

 

[DPWK]

Hey guys, I was actually just looking at putting a receptacle in the soffit on my garage for Christmas lights as well. My only question was on how to mount the box in the soffit. Do any of you guys know from experience how to do this? I was wondering if the re-work brackets (F-clips is what my J-man calls them) would work on the tin? Or maybe there is a better way?

 

[daveEM]

I was wondering if the re-work brackets (F-clips is what my J-man calls them) would work on the tin?

^^ :no:

But you probably have a 2x6 running around the building that the eve trough is attached to. Put the box there and attach to the 2x6. It will still be out of the weather.

^^ Do it this afternoon cause its nice out in Edmonton so must be where down south no? Also get her done before the Grey Cup starts. Edmonton should kick some ass.

 

[DPWK]

Haha it is nice down here today too, but I'm working on my bathroom demo today. As for the Grey Cup, I'm a Rider's Fan :wallbash:. So it hasn't been a good year. I would like to see Burris win one last cup, but I don't think he stands a chance against the Eskimos. We shall see!

 

[Gnome]

I forgot about the 2.5m rule; I guess it's never applied for anything I've installed. I think if I was installing it I would put a GFCI on it anyway just to be safe.

You don't want the GFCI up in the soffit though; makes it hard to reset. Feed it from a GFCI receptacle at ground level or with a GFCI breaker.

 

[anylettuce]

I call them a faceless gfi. It is gfi protection that looks like a receptical but has no receptical ports. Just the test and reset.
It is not needed in this situation but I have seen it installed, including the gfi in the soffit.

Keep in mind as long as it is 45 deg or more you also don't need a weatherproof cover.