Connect appliances from Europe in the US

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gilamor

Discussion Starter · Apr 6, 2008

I have a customer from Europe who wants to connect 250v grill he bought there
I know that to get 220v I can connect the neutral of the grill and hot wire between 2 phases. 220 volts would be sufficient to run the grill
(I believe the 60Hz vs. 50Hz would not have any effect on the operation of the grill)
Is that safe? (Of course get the proper plug to be different from other plugs in the house)
In European countries all the hose is on GFCI
Should I use GFCI for this grill?
Does the NEC say something about this?
Thank You
Meir
310-699-9444
Amor Electric
[email protected]
http://www.amorelectric.com

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frank

· #2 · Apr 6, 2008

No problems whatsoever.

Use a transformer 110 to 230 volts at the appropriate Kva rating. No need to use a GFI unless you need to. Earthing/grounding is just the same ,
. As for 60Hz/50Hz. It makes no difference with this type of equipment.
Just be careful to correctly connect the different coloured wires to the US supply.

Blue or Black --- Neutral
Brown or Red .... Live
Green/Yellow ..... Earth

Frank

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gilamor

Discussion Starter · #3 · Apr 7, 2008

You can’t get a transformer for 15 Amp radio shake sale one for 250w
This is the largest I saw

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micromind

· #4 · Apr 7, 2008

A good part of the handheld power tools I keep in my garage are 220 volt 50 HZ. I have a number of 240 outlets, so I simply replaced the plugs with 20 amp 250 volt ones. (NEMA 6-20). They all work just fine.

You certainly can use a transformer as stated above, or wire up a 240 volt circuit to a suitable receptacle, and put a plug on the cord to match. Don't use a 125 volt receptacle though, sooner or later someone will forget and.....

50HZ vs. 60HZ will only affect induction motors, and some transformers. It has no effect at all on a heater.

Rob

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randomkiller

· #5 · Apr 7, 2008

gilamor said:
You can’t get a transformer for 15 Amp radio shake sale one for 250w
This is the largest I saw

In recent past they invented something that surpasses Radio Shack, it's called an ELECTRICAL SUPPLY HOUSE.

What is your electrical trade???

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HighWirey

· #6 · Apr 7, 2008

randomkiller said:
In recent past they invented something that surpasses Radio Shack, it's called an ELECTRICAL SUPPLY HOUSE.

What is your electrical trade???

I stopped with the Radio Shack when they STARTED asking for my name and address

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randomkiller

· #7 · Apr 7, 2008

HighWirey said:
I stopped with the Radio Shack when they STARTED asking for my name and address

Best Wishes Everyone

Yeah right, like they were gonna stop by and visit. Makes you a little nervous when all you were buying was (2) AA's or something.

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31b

· #8 · Apr 8, 2008

micromind said:
50HZ vs. 60HZ will only affect induction motors, and some transformers. It has no effect at all on a heater.

some electronics too I believe, I recall having issues with alarm clocks years back overseas. (basically just an issue of being a little too fast or a little too slow over time)

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micromind

· #9 · Apr 8, 2008

You're right! I forgot all about that. Many years ago, before they started using crystal oscillators as a time base, the very first digital clocks used the line frequency for the time base.

It worked fine here, because in the US, the frequency is about as close to 60HZ as you can get. A generator or inverter is not as accurate, and 50HZ would certainly throw a wrench in the works.

That's been a long time ago!

Rob

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randomkiller

· #10 · Apr 8, 2008

micromind said:
You're right! I forgot all about that. Many years ago, before they started using crystal oscillators as a time base, the very first digital clocks used the line frequency for the time base.

It worked fine here, because in the US, the frequency is about as close to 60HZ as you can get. A generator or inverter is not as accurate, and 50HZ would certainly throw a wrench in the works.

That's been a long time ago!

Rob

More electronics still use the 60 hertz for timing than not.

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