can i get some input on some connectors...they come in 2 through 5 connector for # 12 ...i usually see them in 120 v and low v can lights. im seeing them more and more used for connecting multiple grounds. they are stab lock. we were gonna use them on a large job but a supervisor said what if they turn out to be like stab lock plugs and it becomes a problem later on so we opted to stick with wire nuts...
any pros and cons would be helpful.
Hello i am new to the forum but happend to see "WAGO" the company i work for did a huge commercial job and we used wagos for the entire job. The wire was solid thhn and we had great results with them. I think we only had a few bad ones out of thousands.
With either Wago brand or the Ideal In-Sures, I have NEVER had one problem. People have had some problems with the ones shipped in can lights, but remember, those are cheap Chinese knockoffs.
I have used the Ideals now for over 5 years almost entirely on light fixtures. This year I have started using them more and more on receptacle boxes. They are cheaper in the long run and easier on the paws.
Hello i am new to the forum but happend to see "WAGO" the company i work for did a huge commercial job and we used wagos for the entire job. The wire was solid thhn and we had great results with them. I think we only had a few bad ones out of thousands.
I use them a fair amount. I inserted wire into them and then took them apart. And then I thought about the surface area contact....And then I thought about if you looked at the wire (like you were looking down a gun barrel) .. Think about how small of a circular mil that is? Make sense?
I have used the ideal brand and never had a problem,I find them to be quicker then using wire nuts. Also will save your wrist from future carpal tunnel pains.
Very handy for solid wire. Stranded I never had much luck. Prefer wire nuts though, I equate the connection a wago makes to the push in connections on some switches and outlets. Just replaced one too many of those things to trust something that utilizes basically the same principal. Once again something that is preference.
I use them all the time. Like someone else said, no more carpal tunnel. You're not supposed to use them with stranded wire but the fixture manufacturers do. Those are the only connections I have seen that fall apart.
Wago's look nice,,, but won't they burn everything down in a few years?
They use the same concept as a back stabbed receptacle. Even tombstones on a flouresent fixture can become brittle from heat over the years.
I've only used them a few times and do like them. But sit prefer wire nuts.
One of the great benefits of using WAGO's is the ability to add to an existing circuit with a shut down or taking apart a neutral splice that might belong to a MWBC..
I'd never seen or heard of anyone having a problem with these until I did some maintenance work at a local high school. Experienced first hand multiple Wagos crumbled or burnt. After seeing what can go wrong I stopped using them.
Were they actually Wagos or some off brand? What caused them to crumble or get burnt? They didn't just crumble on their own, what was your troubleshooting conclusion?
Were they actually Wagos or some off brand? What caused them to crumble or get burnt? They didn't just crumble on their own, what was your troubleshooting conclusion?
They were ideal I believe. On a T8 277v fixture. Arching caused the burning. No idea what caused the crumbling. Sometimes I remove the cover just to have pieces fall out. No discoloration or burn marks. the building is only 10 years old. Not sure if the contractor got a bad batch of them or what. Next time I come across one I'll post some pics in the thread.
I saw some Wagos used on a fluorescent HO sign ballast with a labelled open circuit voltage of 730 volts or so... the wagos were only rated for 300 volts (I think) and were completely cooked in the places they were contacting the metal sign parts.
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