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With all the new GFCI requirements for kitchens in the 2014 NEC, I'm thinking they should start selling dead fronts in a 3 or even a 6 pack now.
 

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When I buy gfci receptacles I buy by the box (10) I am sure they have dead fronts the same way. Are you thinking it would be cheaper????
 

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Why a deadfront?
 

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Next72969 said:
Accessibility, dishwashers and most fridges will be required in this code cycle, and people aren't going to pullout these appliances any time there's a trip.
Lol I said pull out
 

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Accessibility, dishwashers and most fridges will be required in this code cycle, and people aren't going to pullout these appliances any time there's a trip.
Gawd! Just think of all the nuisance tripping.:whistling2:
 

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Time to start building houses with GFCI closets.. all the GFCI resets for the house will be located there.
probably just dead fronts next to the panel so when either the afci or gfci trips the homeowners only have to go to one place
 

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Dishwashers make sense, but refrigerators? I dunno about that. I'm not opposed to code changes like this but when my refrigerator GFCI decides to trip when I'm on vacation or something I wouldn't look forward to opening it up when I got home.
 

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erics37 said:
Dishwashers make sense, but refrigerators? I dunno about that. I'm not opposed to code changes like this but when my refrigerator GFCI decides to trip when I'm on vacation or something I wouldn't look forward to opening it up when I got home.
im pretty sure it changed to everything within 6' of a sink, thats why i said most fridges. However, were stuck on '08 in ny so i havent read the changes thoroughly.
 

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im pretty sure it changed to everything within 6' of a sink, thats why i said most fridges. However, were stuck on '08 in ny so i havent read the changes thoroughly.
You are correct. I'm doing a condo kitchen reno right now and the fridge, micro hood, gas stove, dishwasher, disposal are all GFCI and AFCI protected. Cha muthafukin ching!
 

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electricmanscott said:
You are correct. I'm doing a condo kitchen reno right now and the fridge, micro hood, gas stove, dishwasher, disposal are all GFCI and AFCI protected. Cha muthafukin ching!
how are you dealing with gfci protecting everything?
 

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I've always called them FACELESS GFCI's but whatever...

As for the new changes, I hope I'm covered under the rehab code because all this AFCI/ GFCI nonsense is difficult to keep up with and doesn't always make a lot of sense. I'm down with the code but some things in the NEC are just dumb.
 

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I want to see the acrobat who can put one hand in the sink while pulling out a refrigerator and sticking his other hand into a receptacle six feet away.
 
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