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Is it safe to download the CEC for free online? Just was reading some other thread that downloading the american one could be a $100k fine.

Where is a good place to buy the actual book? I just want the download to put on my phone.

Also random question. Currently looking for an apprenticeship, someone told me to avoid the union because they require you to travel alot and will put you up in hotels wherever the work is. Any truth to that?

I don't think I would mind that actually could be fun.
 

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If it is free then it isn't legal- IMO. But hey it is hard to resist a freebie. Please don't post any links to it on this site as they can cause issues. :thumbsup:
 

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I believe so Denny, look here

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CSA doesn't give anything away for free!

Also in canada we can have a digital backup for any dvd, cd's we have so why not a book. I paid for the book, why cant i have a digital pdf backup.
Because then, CSA wouldn't make as much money. Why do you they think the code now changes every 3 years?
 

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Canada has funny rules that protect people.. so most things are grey area.. "pirated" material has been in that grey area for a long time.

The government (pushed by big money) are working had to change that and turn us all into criminals. Canadians are some of the biggest pirates.. but it's because we're so gouged. When given a good alternative, like Netflix, piracy goes down.

I've also never heard of anyone getting in trouble for downloading anything pirated off the internet. I bet that'll change in the next few years.
 

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You can download the Code Book from the CSA website in PDF form. The Legal Notice, among other things, allows you to "print this document if it is in PDF form".

It is not free from CSA.

For $325 you can get the C22.1-12 CE CODE SMART PACKAGE...
http://shop.csa.ca/en/canada/c221-canadian-electrical-code/c221-12-ce-code-smart-package/invt/27013892012pkg

For $175 you can get just the code book...
http://shop.csa.ca/en/canada/c221-canadian-electrical-code/c221-12/invt/27013892012?source=ProductDetailCrossSell

I'm sure there are many places that will print the PDF for you but one is Staples for $0.06 cents a sheet, - add $0.02 sheet for the 3 hole punch. The book is 690 pages. You can then have the file on your phone, tablet and printed copies in the bathroom, truck, camper, etc. :)

I think...

We have these rumers of 'free' because of this guy... Electrical Code Simplified
http://www.psknight.com/

He is at war with CSA, uses their book to write his and they aren't happy. War...
http://www.restorecsa.com/

But anyway the Code Book from the original CSA group is not free.
 

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You get in trouble here if you "make profit" off illegal downloads. If your an employee I wouldn't worry but if your the employer I would think twice. All it takes is for someone to claim your using the code book for profit (which would be hard). Now that being said I am a electrician not a lawyer but we have heard a horror story of someone using autocad electrical without a license and got fined a large amount. Which make sense because no Canadian would ever pay for it if we didnt have to....ok that sounded bad...
 

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CSA doesn't give anything away for free!



Because then, CSA wouldn't make as much money. Why do you they think the code now changes every 3 years?
I bought the code, book so they get my money there, if i have one in PDF on my phone for quick reference big deal. I perfer to use the book, find it easier to read this way.
 

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I obtained a CEC pdf once from a Canadian brother

It was in response to dueling codes, etc :thumbsup:

I thought at the time, gee that's nice it's all so open & free up there

but perhaps i'm mistaken :(

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I'm sure CSA is working diligently at turning the CEC into an app, and ditching the shareable PDF file.

Can't say I wouldn't mind something more cross referenced and easier to use than the PDF. Things like if a rule references another rule, you can click it and it'll take you to that other rule, or table or appendix whatever..etc. Or maybe include the CEC Handbook into the code as a clickable link.. so you can get their interpretation or additional info instantly.

I'd pay $9.99/mo for that easily! Which could be $120/yr or $360/code cycle. They'd be getting much more out of my pocket than they currently are… but at least I'd have a more useful and easier code to reference.
 
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