[Shockdoc]

Got a call , resulted in an argument and a service call. A property owners tenant recently had his service cut because he never applied for it. PSEG refused to plug meter back in because " there are three wires on top, and only two on the bottom". It's a 3ph open delta service. The panel was changed to a single phase 100. The high leg was removed from meter. I was paid to install a new GEC, ground rod and close up open wiring. Owner blamed me, after a 30 minute argument I charged him $150 to plug meter in.
Shouldn't POCO employees be trained to know a little bit about distribution such as it's ok if and old high leg is , obsolete.

 

[samgregger]

Was the delta leg connected to the service drop?

 

[bobelectric]

Move this to Business and Marketing under 'Creating Repeat Customers '

 

[Shockdoc]

Yes, old 1960s set up.

Was the delta leg connected to the service drop?

Was the delta leg connected to the service drop?

 

[Shockdoc]

Was the delta leg connected to the service drop?

Yes, old 1960s set up. Former pizza place from 70s was last to need 3 ph.
Former owner swapped to single phase panel from fuses. The had meter on .

 

[MHElectric]

Weird, that's exactly what everybody around here does - leave the high leg in the meter. Im pretty sure our poco guys could care less, as long as the electrician said it was good.

 

[Shockdoc]

Not to insinuate anything but it was a woman. She must have been a liberal.

 

[samgregger]

Just wondering, did they still have a 3 phase meter? If you put a single phase meter in a 3 phase meter can, that leg doesn't get energized anyway, right?

 

[Shockdoc]

Just wondering, did they still have a 3 phase meter? If you put a single phase meter in a 3 phase meter can, that leg doesn't get energized anyway, right?

Yes, old dial meter. But they are using A and B , C is the high leg in the pan.

 

[Shockdoc]

Move this to Business and Marketing under 'Creating Repeat Customers '

I have learned to put customers in their place. I don't kiss butt, sniff farts or give away free shirts. I'm not a scapegoat . If a customer aggravates me I have no problem firing them. He's been using his GCs electrician periodically, inserting sheathed romex in a plastic box says alot about him to me. Guy always ends up calling me when the crap hits the fan.

 

[Ontario]

It might be because I'm tired or because I'm not good with acronyms but what is a GEC?

 

[vasparky27]

Grounding electrode conductor



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[Shockdoc]

It might be because I'm tired or because I'm not good with acronyms but what is a GEC?

Grounding electrode conductor, in this case a #4 copper conductor going to the cold water pipe and jumping out the watermeter.

It might be because I'm tired or because I'm not good with acronyms but what is a GEC?

 

[Meadow]

Got a call , resulted in an argument and a service call. A property owners tenant recently had his service cut because he never applied for it. PSEG refused to plug meter back in because " there are three wires on top, and only two on the bottom". It's a 3ph open delta service. The panel was changed to a single phase 100. The high leg was removed from meter. I was paid to install a new GEC, ground rod and close up open wiring. Owner blamed me, after a 30 minute argument I charged him $150 to plug meter in.
Shouldn't POCO employees be trained to know a little bit about distribution such as it's ok if and old high leg is , obsolete.

A lotof these poco guys are clueless. They know next to nothing about electricity. More line hardware, assembly and taking orders.

 

[Shockdoc]

A lotof these poco guys are clueless. They know next to nothing about electricity. More line hardware, assembly and taking orders.

I have another job, service upgrade. Customer complains lights blink with AC , on. Sent temp to PSEG, met linewoman at site. Said she couldn't upgrade drop cause it's a midspan over 90'. Asked me what she should do.....I said install another xformer and split up circuit. Seven houses fed from one 37.5 kva xformer. My client is at the far end fed with #4 al triplex.

 

[Meadow]

I have another job, service upgrade. Customer complains lights blink with AC , on. Sent temp to PSEG, met linewoman at site. Said she couldn't upgrade drop cause it's a midspan over 90'. Asked me what she should do.....I said install another xformer and split up circuit. Seven houses fed from one 37.5 kva xformer. My client is at the far end fed with #4 al triplex.

:laughing: What was her response to that?

 

[chicken steve]

It might be because I'm tired or because I'm not good with acronyms but what is a GEC?

We really should start a trade acronym thread.....


~CS~

 

[Bad Electrician]

It might be because I'm tired or because I'm not good with acronyms but what is a GEC?

GEC - Grounding Electrode Conductor
EGC - Equipment Grounding Conductor
GFPE - Ground-Fault Protection for Equipment
GFCI - Ground-Fault Circuit Interrupter


I miss any G's

 

[micromind]

GEC - Grounding Electrode Conductor
EGC - Equipment Grounding Conductor
GFPE - Ground-Fault Protection for Equipment
GFCI - Ground-Fault Circuit Interrupter


I miss any G's

Lets see what you clowns do with this one.......

NGBJ - Neutral Ground Bonding Jumper.

 

[ponyboy]

Mbj
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