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Hello, I'm new to this forum and trying to get a little help.
Customer wants a new gas stove to replace the existing electric
Range. The house sits on a crawl space, age of the house is maybe
20 yrs. old. Ok here's the question. Can I cut the 6/3 AL that feeds
The current range in the crawl space and splice (in Jbox) with AL/CU
connectors and feed a 120 outlet for new stove controls?? I'm only considering
This because service panel is in a garage with no acces below or above.
Flush mounted panel in wall. House is two story. Thanks for help in advance.
 

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Hello, I'm new to this forum and trying to get a little help.
Customer wants a new gas stove to replace the existing electric
Range. The house sits on a crawl space, age of the house is maybe
20 yrs. old. Ok here's the question. Can I cut the 6/3 AL that feeds
The current range in the crawl space and splice (in Jbox) with AL/CU
connectors and feed a 120 outlet for new stove controls?? I'm only considering
This because service panel is in a garage with no acces below or above.
Flush mounted panel in wall. House is two story. Thanks for help in advance.
Is it actually 6/3 SER? If it is a 4-wire cable, then you could pull it back, bring it up into a closet or something, and add a 6 or 8 circuit sub panel. Run the new stove circuit out of that, and the customer also has roof from expansion in the future.
 

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Yes you can. It is done often. You will need to pigtail it in the panel also because you can't get a #6 wire under a 20A breaker lug/terminal.

Often, the range is supplied with SE and, although the same things apply, it's technically illegal to re identify one of the conductors as a neutral (smaller than #4) .
 

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The AL to cu splice will be an issue...only 2 approved methods to do this so commandos way is best IMHO..sub panel accessible someplace? and then run off that....
 

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The AL to cu splice will be an issue...only 2 approved methods to do this so commandos way is best IMHO..sub panel accessible someplace? and then run off that....
I mean, he could set a 4 11/16 box and NSI the #6 ALs to #12 CUs. That would work, it just doesn't give you room for expansion.
 

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The AL to cu splice will be an issue...only 2 approved methods to do this so commandos way is best IMHO..sub panel accessible someplace? and then run off that....
There are plenty more than two approved ways to do this. For a cable that size use an sk split bolt and some tape. Not hard to convert an oven at all. Swap breaker out in panel and do the same thing there to convert conductor size. Much easier and less costly than installing a sub panel.
 

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Either way I get sub panels for $29....yes you could put a 4sq under there and split bolt it and change break and re identify 2 split bolts new breaker ect....you do the math....:thumbsup:
 

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Either way I get sub panels for $29....yes you could put a 4sq under there and split bolt it and change break and re identify 2 split bolts new breaker ect....you do the math....:thumbsup:
where is this sub panel going? Behind the oven? 30 feet away? I see more than your 29 bucks piling up real quick.

I have less than $25 in my solution, and that is for those who don't have a burndy crimp gizmo. If you have a Burndy like I do it takes one third less time to finish the job, so you now have a 15 minute conversion , but since I always flat rate, that makes the money go into my pocket that much faster. And everything is in the van.
 

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I would try the upsell panel....but if there is push back split bolts and panel work would work...depends on situation....have seen issue 1x with split bolt but was on 240v range line....sparky didn't use enough tape and proper method to wrap bolt....spark show was on:eek:
 

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Awesome Guys!! Thanks for all the help. Well sub panel is probably not the way I want to go. It is SE cable though. And I don't have a burndy crimp tool. Though I like that idea.
 

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Often, the range is supplied with SE and, although the same things apply, it's technically illegal to re identify one of the conductors as a neutral (smaller than #4) .
Not true, you can re mark a black to white in any size when it is a cable.
 
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